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> Loss in Judo is more personal than in other sports. Defeat in a sport like tennis feels bad, but defeat in a fighting sport is crushing in ways that most peop

by tayo42 4y ago

> Loss in Judo is more personal than in other sports. Defeat in a sport like tennis feels bad, but defeat in a fighting sport is crushing in ways that most people do not comprehend. Just this stuck out, this was one of the worst parts of high school wrestling, just two people, one on one more or less fighting. At least in football you can blame it on the team all together.

dylan604 4y ago
This is what I came to appreciate about golf as well. There's nobody to blame except yourself when things don't work out, and there's nobody else to steal credit when things go well. Even more so since there's no direct competitor/defender actively interacting with you in ways to prevent you from doing something
hermitcrab 4y ago
That is partly a cultural thing though, isn't it? I went to the USA as a camp counsellor in the 80s and was really stuck by the difference in attitude to winning and losing between the UK and US. In the UK it is generally considered ok to lose at sport, as long as you give it your best and conduct yourself in a sportsman-like manner. The US attitude (on my camp, at least) seemed to be to win at all costs. During the final week of sports competition at the camp, the boys would be so psyched up that the losing team would almost always burst into tears. Even the 15 year olds. Not all what you would expect in the UK.
- tayo42 4y ago
  could be, maybe depends on the sport. but I really couldn't comment on culture of the UK hah. personally at least, i grew up playing sports with friends and losing was ok and happened, sure they were competitive though and maybe the occasional sore loser. high school sports were different for sure. probably to intense for the average kid.
FartyMcFarter 4y ago
However, if you're doing it for fun then getting thrown like a ragdoll is actually quite entertaining. Even the parts that hurt are memorable in a good way. I remember someone quite expert performing a move that made my body feel like it was about to split into 4 pieces, but the pain was not that bad and only lasted for a moment (because they knew when to stop). It is amazing (and humbling) to experience first hand what a skilled fighter can do to you in a safe context.
- edgyquant 4y ago
  I lose in Randori all the time (at least every week) to the black/brown belts at my gym and it’s usually to the sound of laughter. Yea I want to win but it’s fun pulling and grip fighting and the throws are beautiful and eloquent even when it’s you getting thrown.
- tayo42 4y ago
  "doing it for fun" and "high school wrestling" don't really go together haha that sport churns through people with the way it's done.

by tayo42 4y ago

dylan604 4y ago

This is what I came to appreciate about golf as well. There's nobody to blame except yourself when things don't work out, and there's nobody else to steal credit when things go well. Even more so since there's no direct competitor/defender actively interacting with you in ways to prevent you from doing something

hermitcrab 4y ago

That is partly a cultural thing though, isn't it? I went to the USA as a camp counsellor in the 80s and was really stuck by the difference in attitude to winning and losing between the UK and US. In the UK it is generally considered ok to lose at sport, as long as you give it your best and conduct yourself in a sportsman-like manner. The US attitude (on my camp, at least) seemed to be to win at all costs. During the final week of sports competition at the camp, the boys would be so psyched up that the losing team would almost always burst into tears. Even the 15 year olds. Not all what you would expect in the UK.

tayo42 4y ago
could be, maybe depends on the sport. but I really couldn't comment on culture of the UK hah. personally at least, i grew up playing sports with friends and losing was ok and happened, sure they were competitive though and maybe the occasional sore loser. high school sports were different for sure. probably to intense for the average kid.

FartyMcFarter 4y ago

However, if you're doing it for fun then getting thrown like a ragdoll is actually quite entertaining. Even the parts that hurt are memorable in a good way. I remember someone quite expert performing a move that made my body feel like it was about to split into 4 pieces, but the pain was not that bad and only lasted for a moment (because they knew when to stop). It is amazing (and humbling) to experience first hand what a skilled fighter can do to you in a safe context.

edgyquant 4y ago
I lose in Randori all the time (at least every week) to the black/brown belts at my gym and it’s usually to the sound of laughter. Yea I want to win but it’s fun pulling and grip fighting and the throws are beautiful and eloquent even when it’s you getting thrown.
tayo42 4y ago
"doing it for fun" and "high school wrestling" don't really go together haha that sport churns through people with the way it's done.