4 ms·

Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking ov

Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking over the microphone.

sul_tasto 4y ago
The problem as I see it is the politicians and media stoking the flames of any controversial issue they can for profit. This ‘issue’ is an excellent example.
psychphysic 4y ago
Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.
- ElfinTrousers 4y ago
  I'm not an expert in UK law but I'm pretty sure that the variation in laws between one US state and another are much bigger than the variation between the four constituent UK countries.
  - matthewmacleod 4y ago
    There's actually quite a substantial difference between Scots law versus English and Welsh law in particular! Even disregarding substantial divergence in legislation, Scots law is a mixed civil/common law system, versus the common law system of England and Wales. I'm no US legal expert, but I'd imagine the differences are roughly on par to those found between US states. My understanding is that it's similar to the sort of difference you'd see between Louisiana's system and other states'.
    - ElfinTrousers 4y ago
      TIL. I'd ask now what the difference is between a barrister and a solicitor, but I'm not sure that's a thing an American is even capable of understanding.
      - matthewmacleod 4y ago
        At the simplest level it’s really just the lawyers who operate in the court (barristers) versus those who operate outwith it (solicitors). It’s a bit more complex and couched in tradition but that’s the gist of it. It’s actually from the same etymology as the “Bar” in the US, as in “admission to the bar” or “the bar association”. It represents a person who has “passed the bar” in the courtroom, separating spectators from participants. It’s just that the setup is a little different, with most solicitors not having a right of audience in the court. Another difference in Scots law - no barristers but “advocates” instead.
        ElfinTrousers 4y ago
        Thanks, very interesting.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    That was sort of my point. The idea is that Europe is much more varied than the US. Yet the UK is a country seemingly made up of countries. So difference isn't enough? And the US already has a system to allow quite different laws to be enacted.
    - ElfinTrousers 4y ago
      Ah, I misunderstood. The thing is, although I believe the US government is more decentralized than your typical European government, and you're right that the various states have very different laws, the Federal government is still extremely powerful, and Federal law covers every subject that you can think of. Since the spectrum of political opinion represented is so wide, this means that any decision the Federal government makes will upset a lot of people. There basically never is a compromise decision that everyone feels at least OK about.
stuckinhell 4y ago
I don't think so. I review a lot of market research reports for my firm when making strategic decisions. The younger generations of Americans are extremely polarized and ready to fight. They don't agree with many of the cultural norms of the older generations such keeping politics out of the work place, or common public areas of civility. They are willing to inject their personal biases into the company and literally every aspect of their life. This is not unique to the Left either. We are seeing some necessary materials partners send out emails signatures with literal bible verses on them to our employees with pronouns in their emails. The under 35's are really adding a lot of pain to my life right now. Cultural Differences in America are at the level of Hungary vs Germany/UK right now, if I had to say.
- peoplearepeople 4y ago
  I think it's just that people are delaying having children. Once they have children they fall in line as there's no energy for anything else
  - Zircom 4y ago
    So from that point of view, one could see conservatives constant and endless attempts on restricting abortion and birth control as trying to prevent would-be liberal voters from being politically active?
  - stuckinhell 4y ago
    Funny you mention that, that was a topic this week at my firm. The number of single women in the U.S. is expected to increase 1.2% every year from 2018 to 2030, compared to a 0.8% increase for the overall population. This is likely going to result in 45% of women between the ages of 25 and 44 who will be single and childless by 2030. If anything I expect the discord to get worse in the future. Also if anyone knows what these single women might want from the market, I'm dying to know!
    - jstarfish 4y ago
      Given the state of abortion law, I wouldn't bet on "childless by choice" remaining a constant. Play both sides: tampons and diapers.

Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking over the microphone.

sul_tasto 4y ago

The problem as I see it is the politicians and media stoking the flames of any controversial issue they can for profit. This ‘issue’ is an excellent example.

psychphysic 4y ago

Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.

ElfinTrousers 4y ago
I'm not an expert in UK law but I'm pretty sure that the variation in laws between one US state and another are much bigger than the variation between the four constituent UK countries.
- matthewmacleod 4y ago
  There's actually quite a substantial difference between Scots law versus English and Welsh law in particular! Even disregarding substantial divergence in legislation, Scots law is a mixed civil/common law system, versus the common law system of England and Wales. I'm no US legal expert, but I'd imagine the differences are roughly on par to those found between US states. My understanding is that it's similar to the sort of difference you'd see between Louisiana's system and other states'.
  - ElfinTrousers 4y ago
    TIL. I'd ask now what the difference is between a barrister and a solicitor, but I'm not sure that's a thing an American is even capable of understanding.
    - matthewmacleod 4y ago
      At the simplest level it’s really just the lawyers who operate in the court (barristers) versus those who operate outwith it (solicitors). It’s a bit more complex and couched in tradition but that’s the gist of it. It’s actually from the same etymology as the “Bar” in the US, as in “admission to the bar” or “the bar association”. It represents a person who has “passed the bar” in the courtroom, separating spectators from participants. It’s just that the setup is a little different, with most solicitors not having a right of audience in the court. Another difference in Scots law - no barristers but “advocates” instead.
      - ElfinTrousers 4y ago
        Thanks, very interesting.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  That was sort of my point. The idea is that Europe is much more varied than the US. Yet the UK is a country seemingly made up of countries. So difference isn't enough? And the US already has a system to allow quite different laws to be enacted.
  - ElfinTrousers 4y ago
    Ah, I misunderstood. The thing is, although I believe the US government is more decentralized than your typical European government, and you're right that the various states have very different laws, the Federal government is still extremely powerful, and Federal law covers every subject that you can think of. Since the spectrum of political opinion represented is so wide, this means that any decision the Federal government makes will upset a lot of people. There basically never is a compromise decision that everyone feels at least OK about.

stuckinhell 4y ago

I don't think so. I review a lot of market research reports for my firm when making strategic decisions. The younger generations of Americans are extremely polarized and ready to fight. They don't agree with many of the cultural norms of the older generations such keeping politics out of the work place, or common public areas of civility. They are willing to inject their personal biases into the company and literally every aspect of their life. This is not unique to the Left either. We are seeing some necessary materials partners send out emails signatures with literal bible verses on them to our employees with pronouns in their emails. The under 35's are really adding a lot of pain to my life right now. Cultural Differences in America are at the level of Hungary vs Germany/UK right now, if I had to say.

peoplearepeople 4y ago
I think it's just that people are delaying having children. Once they have children they fall in line as there's no energy for anything else
- Zircom 4y ago
  So from that point of view, one could see conservatives constant and endless attempts on restricting abortion and birth control as trying to prevent would-be liberal voters from being politically active?
- stuckinhell 4y ago
  Funny you mention that, that was a topic this week at my firm. The number of single women in the U.S. is expected to increase 1.2% every year from 2018 to 2030, compared to a 0.8% increase for the overall population. This is likely going to result in 45% of women between the ages of 25 and 44 who will be single and childless by 2030. If anything I expect the discord to get worse in the future. Also if anyone knows what these single women might want from the market, I'm dying to know!
  - jstarfish 4y ago
    Given the state of abortion law, I wouldn't bet on "childless by choice" remaining a constant. Play both sides: tampons and diapers.