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What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting

What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID. a large sector of the population acting like a bunch of anxious cowards Are you a coward for wearing a seatbelt in a car? How about a helmet when riding a motorcycle?

mjr00 4y ago
> Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID. Let this be a lesson: this is what privilege sounds like. It's very easy to say "just be more adaptable" when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket. Meanwhile, tens or hundreds of millions of people worldwide who work in hospitality, music/theatre/other live performances, conferences and events, tourism, etc. had their livelihoods absolutely crushed by COVID restrictions. They got government handouts and still barely survived. But yeah, nobody cares about those people; they don't matter since they're not FAANG employees. They should just adapt and learn how to code red-black trees on a whiteboard to get a job at Meta.
- snozolli 4y ago
  this is what privilege sounds like. Are you suggesting that other people don't have access to the outside, or communication technology? Aside from very few places, there was never any actual lockdown. Everyone in America had the right to walk in a park with friends while social distancing. when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket That's quite some projection. nobody cares about those people I guess that's why I always wear a mask when in an enclosed area...? Why I always respected personal space of workers and always had patience with them, knowing what they're going through. Yep, I'm just a privileged meanie. Can't possibly be that I behaved like a responsible, caring adult, using methods available to all Americans.
poszlem 4y ago
The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes to avoid falls. The question is how much we're willing to sacrifice for safety. Fortunately, most people aren't willing to go as far as suggested.
- snozolli 4y ago
  The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy. Incidentally, nobody forced you to wear a mask. You always had other options. You are, however, forced to wear a seatbelt (aside from NH) and, in almost all states, a helmet while on a motorcycle. Other than a few overconfident fools, everyone understands the benefits of these precautions. Somehow, though, taking reasonable precautions against COVID is tantamount to bubble wrap life. Why? Because it's new and you're so indignant that you can't see you're the wrong side of history.
  - poszlem 4y ago
    > No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy. It absolutely could. This is just the "slippery slope fallacy fallacy": assuming that all slippery slope arguments are fallacious. Another mistake you make is assuming that everybody you talk to on this site lives in the US. I can assure you that not only I was "forced" to wear a mask, in many parts of the world people lost their jobs for refusing to do so. But I see I am talking to someone who not only believes that he is "on the right side of history", but also that the history has "the right side". I deeply regret to say that I will not modify my way of interacting with others, especially now that we know that the pandemic is over. I hold a strong conviction that face-to-face communication has been a successful method for thousands of years, and I am not inclined to adopt a technique of uncertain effectiveness and potential unknown consequences, solely due to the influence of a minority of individuals who suffer from health anxiety (and I don't use the word hypochondriasis as a gesture of good will here).
    - 4y ago

mjr00 4y ago

> Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID. Let this be a lesson: this is what privilege sounds like. It's very easy to say "just be more adaptable" when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket. Meanwhile, tens or hundreds of millions of people worldwide who work in hospitality, music/theatre/other live performances, conferences and events, tourism, etc. had their livelihoods absolutely crushed by COVID restrictions. They got government handouts and still barely survived. But yeah, nobody cares about those people; they don't matter since they're not FAANG employees. They should just adapt and learn how to code red-black trees on a whiteboard to get a job at Meta.

snozolli 4y ago
this is what privilege sounds like. Are you suggesting that other people don't have access to the outside, or communication technology? Aside from very few places, there was never any actual lockdown. Everyone in America had the right to walk in a park with friends while social distancing. when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket That's quite some projection. nobody cares about those people I guess that's why I always wear a mask when in an enclosed area...? Why I always respected personal space of workers and always had patience with them, knowing what they're going through. Yep, I'm just a privileged meanie. Can't possibly be that I behaved like a responsible, caring adult, using methods available to all Americans.

poszlem 4y ago

The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes to avoid falls. The question is how much we're willing to sacrifice for safety. Fortunately, most people aren't willing to go as far as suggested.

snozolli 4y ago
The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy. Incidentally, nobody forced you to wear a mask. You always had other options. You are, however, forced to wear a seatbelt (aside from NH) and, in almost all states, a helmet while on a motorcycle. Other than a few overconfident fools, everyone understands the benefits of these precautions. Somehow, though, taking reasonable precautions against COVID is tantamount to bubble wrap life. Why? Because it's new and you're so indignant that you can't see you're the wrong side of history.
- poszlem 4y ago
  > No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy. It absolutely could. This is just the "slippery slope fallacy fallacy": assuming that all slippery slope arguments are fallacious. Another mistake you make is assuming that everybody you talk to on this site lives in the US. I can assure you that not only I was "forced" to wear a mask, in many parts of the world people lost their jobs for refusing to do so. But I see I am talking to someone who not only believes that he is "on the right side of history", but also that the history has "the right side". I deeply regret to say that I will not modify my way of interacting with others, especially now that we know that the pandemic is over. I hold a strong conviction that face-to-face communication has been a successful method for thousands of years, and I am not inclined to adopt a technique of uncertain effectiveness and potential unknown consequences, solely due to the influence of a minority of individuals who suffer from health anxiety (and I don't use the word hypochondriasis as a gesture of good will here).
  - 4y ago