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Author here - yeah, that's how I feel about it, at least for startups specifically.

by aisrael 4y ago

jeromenerf 4y ago
... then however, how do you feel about tech debt with Rust? My feeling was that go, rust and such left a lighter burden on the future than say ruby. Do you think you will need a major rewrite soon?
- aisrael 4y ago
  To me, the language agnostic answer to reducing tech debt is having a good test suite so refactoring is easier. We're pretty good on that front. We have definitely done large refactors before, and I'm sure we'll have more in the future, but I don't think we need a major rewrite or anything like that.
- ReflectedImage 4y ago
  As long as you know what you are doing Ruby won't leave you with more technical debt than Go or Rust. How many people know how to effectively program in languages like Ruby is another question altogether...
mrichman 4y ago
What if your startup is in the embedded systems space, for example? I don't think you'd be doing your MVP in Python.
- distcs 4y ago
  Why impose the "embedded systems" space requirement on the OP? The OP does not work in embedded systems space. So it is not relevant to this article. The OP is telling us what they would do, not what you should do and definitely not what embedded systems startups should do.
  - steveklabnik 4y ago
    (Not your parent but how I read it.) It's not imposing a space requirement. It's a reminder that these generalizations have limitations. The OP isn't in the embedded space, but they do say "a startup" not "a web startup." There are embedded startups.
- aisrael 4y ago
  That's fair, I was definitely being a bit too general. There's another comment in this thread that summarizes it better which is asking "what would I use if Rust didn't exist?" and I think that's a more clear line. All of my embedded work was in C/asm so Rust is actually a great choice there.

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Author here - yeah, that's how I feel about it, at least for startups specifically.

by aisrael 4y ago

Author here - yeah, that's how I feel about it, at least for startups specifically.

jeromenerf 4y ago
... then however, how do you feel about tech debt with Rust? My feeling was that go, rust and such left a lighter burden on the future than say ruby. Do you think you will need a major rewrite soon?
- aisrael 4y ago
  To me, the language agnostic answer to reducing tech debt is having a good test suite so refactoring is easier. We're pretty good on that front. We have definitely done large refactors before, and I'm sure we'll have more in the future, but I don't think we need a major rewrite or anything like that.
- ReflectedImage 4y ago
  As long as you know what you are doing Ruby won't leave you with more technical debt than Go or Rust. How many people know how to effectively program in languages like Ruby is another question altogether...
mrichman 4y ago
What if your startup is in the embedded systems space, for example? I don't think you'd be doing your MVP in Python.
- distcs 4y ago
  Why impose the "embedded systems" space requirement on the OP? The OP does not work in embedded systems space. So it is not relevant to this article. The OP is telling us what they would do, not what you should do and definitely not what embedded systems startups should do.
  - steveklabnik 4y ago
    (Not your parent but how I read it.) It's not imposing a space requirement. It's a reminder that these generalizations have limitations. The OP isn't in the embedded space, but they do say "a startup" not "a web startup." There are embedded startups.
- aisrael 4y ago
  That's fair, I was definitely being a bit too general. There's another comment in this thread that summarizes it better which is asking "what would I use if Rust didn't exist?" and I think that's a more clear line. All of my embedded work was in C/asm so Rust is actually a great choice there.