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So last time this story made the rounds, the legislature had passed the bill. Then the mayor signed it into law - but not before adding some legalese that rough

So last time this story made the rounds, the legislature had passed the bill. Then the mayor signed it into law - but not before adding some legalese that roughly amounted to "just kidding lol". Afaik nobody could explain why it was legal for the mayor to add arbitrary language without legislative oversight. Has anyone dove in to figure out how that happened?

rdedev 4y ago
https://youtu.be/pEZcRR61Bqg https://youtu.be/pEZcRR61Bqg Louis Rossmanns video on what happened. Basically amounts to adding a provision at the last minute when almost everyone in the house is on vacation
lando2319 4y ago
My understanding is the governor's signed it with an understanding that the legislator would immediately water it down. Which is what happened
- delecti 4y ago
  How can they make changes after he signed it though?
  - paulette449 4y ago
    She [1] [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Hochul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Hochul
    - junofan 4y ago
      I downvoted this comment. The person you’re replying to seems to be using gender-neutral pronouns in good faith, and I don’t think this comment contributes to the discussion.
      - delecti 4y ago
        No, it was fair. I used "they" to refer to the plural legislative body, and incorrectly used "he" to refer to the governor.
  - QuillPen 4y ago
    By passing a new law, termed a "chapter amendment". These are agreed upon by the governor and the legislature in advance of the governor's signature and passed and signed rapidly thereafter.
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      Do you have a link to the text of this 'chapter amendment'?
      - LookReally 4y ago
        https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 I believe it's actually already passed both the assembly + senate.
        MichaelZuo 4y ago
        This appears to be a link to the bill, not to the 'chapter amendment' of the bill?
        LookReally 4y ago
        The name of the bill is misleading. This is separate from the bill that passed and was signed into law last year. The first few lines of the text describe it as "...to amend a chapter of the laws of 2022... as proposed in legislative bills numbers S. 4104-A and A. 7006-B" (A4104A + A7006B are the bills/now law from last year)
klyrs 4y ago
According to the article, the state Senate has not approved the changes yet, so it is not yet law.
- LookReally 4y ago
  I think the article is incorrect on this point. The NY assembly and senate have both passed the bill that contains the changes: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 It hasn't yet been signed by the governor though. I live in NY and actually reached out to both my state senator and assemblyperson multiple times in opposition to this follow up bill. I never received a substantive reply.

rdedev 4y ago

https://youtu.be/pEZcRR61Bqg https://youtu.be/pEZcRR61Bqg Louis Rossmanns video on what happened. Basically amounts to adding a provision at the last minute when almost everyone in the house is on vacation

lando2319 4y ago

My understanding is the governor's signed it with an understanding that the legislator would immediately water it down. Which is what happened

delecti 4y ago
How can they make changes after he signed it though?
- paulette449 4y ago
  She [1] [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Hochul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Hochul
  - junofan 4y ago
    I downvoted this comment. The person you’re replying to seems to be using gender-neutral pronouns in good faith, and I don’t think this comment contributes to the discussion.
    - delecti 4y ago
      No, it was fair. I used "they" to refer to the plural legislative body, and incorrectly used "he" to refer to the governor.
- QuillPen 4y ago
  By passing a new law, termed a "chapter amendment". These are agreed upon by the governor and the legislature in advance of the governor's signature and passed and signed rapidly thereafter.
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    Do you have a link to the text of this 'chapter amendment'?
    - LookReally 4y ago
      https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 I believe it's actually already passed both the assembly + senate.
      - MichaelZuo 4y ago
        This appears to be a link to the bill, not to the 'chapter amendment' of the bill?
        LookReally 4y ago
        The name of the bill is misleading. This is separate from the bill that passed and was signed into law last year. The first few lines of the text describe it as "...to amend a chapter of the laws of 2022... as proposed in legislative bills numbers S. 4104-A and A. 7006-B" (A4104A + A7006B are the bills/now law from last year)

klyrs 4y ago

According to the article, the state Senate has not approved the changes yet, so it is not yet law.

LookReally 4y ago
I think the article is incorrect on this point. The NY assembly and senate have both passed the bill that contains the changes: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/a1285 It hasn't yet been signed by the governor though. I live in NY and actually reached out to both my state senator and assemblyperson multiple times in opposition to this follow up bill. I never received a substantive reply.