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Yes, most people are lurkers. That doesn't mean that lurkers can't show their presence with interactions in the form of up or downvotes or that the different su

Yes, most people are lurkers. That doesn't mean that lurkers can't show their presence with interactions in the form of up or downvotes or that the different subreddits, hashtags, and so on aren't a mirror of the user base. Now, I understand your cynicism, but you'd be naive to believe that small pockets of change are not happening. But then again, what does a European know about European cities? Anyhow, I found this somewhere on HN, I am certain you will enjoy the irony. > everyone is preening, bragging, trying to seem better than you, claiming to have the moral high ground, or the only correct answer.

danaris 4y ago
> Yes, most people are lurkers. No, most people are not on Reddit.
luckylion 4y ago
Berlin is super progressive. You absolutely don't need a car in Berlin. Berlin certainly has the highest percentage of people (in Germany) aggressively telling everyone that you shouldn't want a car. Around 30% of households in Berlin do not own a car. The "I like bikes and I bike everywhere" group is a small minority. I know, I'm one of them. As soon as it's even slightly rainy mine is the only bike in front of the super market (though I'm sure it would be slightly different in Berlin, or at least in some parts of Berlin). But if you looked at surveys, you'd think that driving your car to the super market would be the exception. People on reddit talking about how much they hate cars aren't representative.
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  I lived in Copenhagen, 2/3 of the population walked or commuted via public transit to work. This obviously isn’t the same as owning a car but I don’t have stats for that off the top of my head. I walked everywhere, but I saw people riding their bikes in the rain, in the snow, and all kinds of weather in between. Now, I am not expressing that everyone shouldn’t own a car nor that people outside cities shouldn’t. I am expressing that __young__ people seem to not want to own a car, with young people being predominantly in cities. Wanting to own, and having to own are two different things as well. My claim appears to be incongruous to what other commenters seem to have assumed I meant.

danaris 4y ago

> Yes, most people are lurkers. No, most people are not on Reddit.

luckylion 4y ago

Berlin is super progressive. You absolutely don't need a car in Berlin. Berlin certainly has the highest percentage of people (in Germany) aggressively telling everyone that you shouldn't want a car. Around 30% of households in Berlin do not own a car. The "I like bikes and I bike everywhere" group is a small minority. I know, I'm one of them. As soon as it's even slightly rainy mine is the only bike in front of the super market (though I'm sure it would be slightly different in Berlin, or at least in some parts of Berlin). But if you looked at surveys, you'd think that driving your car to the super market would be the exception. People on reddit talking about how much they hate cars aren't representative.

PartiallyTyped 4y ago
I lived in Copenhagen, 2/3 of the population walked or commuted via public transit to work. This obviously isn’t the same as owning a car but I don’t have stats for that off the top of my head. I walked everywhere, but I saw people riding their bikes in the rain, in the snow, and all kinds of weather in between. Now, I am not expressing that everyone shouldn’t own a car nor that people outside cities shouldn’t. I am expressing that __young__ people seem to not want to own a car, with young people being predominantly in cities. Wanting to own, and having to own are two different things as well. My claim appears to be incongruous to what other commenters seem to have assumed I meant.