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The problem I see in my western society is that career growth and personal growth are separated. An individual falling into this divide will always feel confli

The problem I see in my western society is that career growth and personal growth are separated. An individual falling into this divide will always feel conflicted. Unfortunately in todays climate with no social safety net for the individual few may have the privilege to hear their inner voice.

mashygpig 4y ago
Definitely agree. Christopher Alexander's "A City Is Not A Tree" [0] speaks to this separation too in the context of our physical spaces (based on your comment I sense you may be familiar with this idea). It feels that western society promotes separation by default. [0] http://en.bp.ntu.edu.tw/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/06-Alexander-A-city-is-not-a-tree.pdf http://en.bp.ntu.edu.tw/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/06-Alexan...
- detourdog 4y ago
  I learned of him a year or so ago and bought: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_Synthesis_of_Form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_Synthesis_of_Form My memory is that it rang so true I didn't need to read it. I'm knee deep(decades)in trying to define an aesthetic for "Technology" so that it can be judged as a media. To put it another way a process for judging technical implementations based on universal human needs. I will check out your reference.
  - mashygpig 4y ago
    That's neat and makes me feel that if you independently came to similar thoughts then there is some universal thing here to uncover/define. Would be interested to hear more about your thoughts/journey if you have them written up somewhere!
    - detourdog 4y ago
      I'm a big believer that humans share a social sub-conconcsious. The ideas I'm sure come from a long Train of utopian modernist designers ideals. Funny enough I think I finally cracked something critical last week here. https://boards.core77.com/t/how-does-one-measure-the-aesthetics-of-technology-implementation/68043/1 https://boards.core77.com/t/how-does-one-measure-the-aesthet... I have been practicing sharing ideas on HN and Core77 in effort to start an honest effort.

mashygpig 4y ago

Definitely agree. Christopher Alexander's "A City Is Not A Tree" [0] speaks to this separation too in the context of our physical spaces (based on your comment I sense you may be familiar with this idea). It feels that western society promotes separation by default. [0] http://en.bp.ntu.edu.tw/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/06-Alexander-A-city-is-not-a-tree.pdf http://en.bp.ntu.edu.tw/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/06-Alexan...

detourdog 4y ago
I learned of him a year or so ago and bought: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_Synthesis_of_Form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_Synthesis_of_Form My memory is that it rang so true I didn't need to read it. I'm knee deep(decades)in trying to define an aesthetic for "Technology" so that it can be judged as a media. To put it another way a process for judging technical implementations based on universal human needs. I will check out your reference.
- mashygpig 4y ago
  That's neat and makes me feel that if you independently came to similar thoughts then there is some universal thing here to uncover/define. Would be interested to hear more about your thoughts/journey if you have them written up somewhere!
  - detourdog 4y ago
    I'm a big believer that humans share a social sub-conconcsious. The ideas I'm sure come from a long Train of utopian modernist designers ideals. Funny enough I think I finally cracked something critical last week here. https://boards.core77.com/t/how-does-one-measure-the-aesthetics-of-technology-implementation/68043/1 https://boards.core77.com/t/how-does-one-measure-the-aesthet... I have been practicing sharing ideas on HN and Core77 in effort to start an honest effort.