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>> The campaign And this really is the crux, isn't it: 1. a political campaign inside Mozilla 2. by some employees that interpreted risk that 3. his donatio

by skeeter2020 4y ago

>> The campaign And this really is the crux, isn't it: 1. a political campaign inside Mozilla 2. by some employees that interpreted risk that 3. his donations were an attack on what they perceived as their rights 4. and this made him unable to fulfill the role of CTO That's a whole lot of one-side conclusions to get to "he's unfit to be the CTO". No wonder he left.

andyjohnson0 4y ago
What do you think "they" should have done? This was all discussed at the time: the campaign against his appointment was far from just being "inside Mozilla". And "what they perceived as their rights" are now actual civil and legal rights because US society decided that was the right thing to do.
- HideousKojima 4y ago
  You mean because five unelected judges decided
  - pxc 4y ago
    That's a good point— gay rights are pretty precariously situated and it seems a bit premature to celebrate their status as set in stone at this point. But Democrats who run in elections and appoint judges seem to generally like being able to point to the courts as a risk, and show little interest in legally bolstering civil rights when they have the power to, so it'll probably stay as it is... until it doesn't, just like with Roe and Casey.
    - sciurus 4y ago
      Sounds like you may have missed some developments, like the Respect for Marriage Act in passed in 2022. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-expected-pass-bill-protecting-same-sex-marriage-2022-12-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-expected-pass-b... https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404
jraph 4y ago
> a political campaign inside Mozilla And outside too. I read that OKCupid invited Firefox users to switch browsers, and CREDO mobile gathered 50K signatures for a petition. So nothing specific to Mozilla in the end. > No wonder he left. He indeed wrote on his blog "under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader" and he was probably right about this.

andyjohnson0 4y ago

What do you think "they" should have done? This was all discussed at the time: the campaign against his appointment was far from just being "inside Mozilla". And "what they perceived as their rights" are now actual civil and legal rights because US society decided that was the right thing to do.

HideousKojima 4y ago
You mean because five unelected judges decided
- pxc 4y ago
  That's a good point— gay rights are pretty precariously situated and it seems a bit premature to celebrate their status as set in stone at this point. But Democrats who run in elections and appoint judges seem to generally like being able to point to the courts as a risk, and show little interest in legally bolstering civil rights when they have the power to, so it'll probably stay as it is... until it doesn't, just like with Roe and Casey.
  - sciurus 4y ago
    Sounds like you may have missed some developments, like the Respect for Marriage Act in passed in 2022. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-expected-pass-bill-protecting-same-sex-marriage-2022-12-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-expected-pass-b... https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404

jraph 4y ago

> a political campaign inside Mozilla And outside too. I read that OKCupid invited Firefox users to switch browsers, and CREDO mobile gathered 50K signatures for a petition. So nothing specific to Mozilla in the end. > No wonder he left. He indeed wrote on his blog "under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader" and he was probably right about this.