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Long-term governance is hard. I have been thinking recently, how could you design governance for a high-end nursing home so that the facility perpetually serve

Long-term governance is hard. I have been thinking recently, how could you design governance for a high-end nursing home so that the facility perpetually serve the rotation and interests of its residents. Without governance, such a facility would quickly trend towards entropy. The first step of entropy is pillage by the executive. When I look around, adversarial systems (courts, parliaments) seem to be a device for building bedrock for better civilisation. I don’t think charity is, due to the governance obstacles.

dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
Good governance at it's very core is the right people at the helm of affairs. Getting the right people is a really hard task, one really has to wade through several thousand people to find that needle in a haystack. Defining what is 'right', is like defining what a Unicorn is i.e almost surreal. >how could you design governance for a high-end nursing home so that the facility perpetually serve the rotation I have been thinking of this problem for decades I think, and unfortunately the solution seems to be what I have alluded above.
- lordswork 4y ago
  Consistently finding and hiring the right people over time is just too difficult to be truly sustainable over multiple generations. A project will always be a few bad hires away from collapse. Maybe a sufficiently advanced AI serving as the "right person" in a governance role is the long-term sustainable solution to this, once that is a capability. Sounds crazy now, but probably less so in 10-20 years.
  - dcow 4y ago
    The same society run forever by heartless AI. Sounds dystopian. The problem then is stagnation. Death makes way for new life and young blood.
    - gus_massa 4y ago
      The first problem is how the AI can ensure people is not lying. And AI can also has objective drift. A project will always be a few paperclips away from collapse. https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/ https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/

dennis_jeeves1 4y ago

Good governance at it's very core is the right people at the helm of affairs. Getting the right people is a really hard task, one really has to wade through several thousand people to find that needle in a haystack. Defining what is 'right', is like defining what a Unicorn is i.e almost surreal. >how could you design governance for a high-end nursing home so that the facility perpetually serve the rotation I have been thinking of this problem for decades I think, and unfortunately the solution seems to be what I have alluded above.

lordswork 4y ago
Consistently finding and hiring the right people over time is just too difficult to be truly sustainable over multiple generations. A project will always be a few bad hires away from collapse. Maybe a sufficiently advanced AI serving as the "right person" in a governance role is the long-term sustainable solution to this, once that is a capability. Sounds crazy now, but probably less so in 10-20 years.
- dcow 4y ago
  The same society run forever by heartless AI. Sounds dystopian. The problem then is stagnation. Death makes way for new life and young blood.
  - gus_massa 4y ago
    The first problem is how the AI can ensure people is not lying. And AI can also has objective drift. A project will always be a few paperclips away from collapse. https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/ https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/