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seeing as their highest advertised tier is 150 TPS (Transactions Per Second), I'd assume DDG has negotiated a contract directly with Microsoft and may not be im

by lgats 4y ago

seeing as their highest advertised tier is 150 TPS (Transactions Per Second), I'd assume DDG has negotiated a contract directly with Microsoft and may not be impacted immediately by this price change.

usr1106 4y ago
I'd sure hope so. DDG has been my favorite search engine for at least 3 years and it would not be nice to lose it. Of course using something good for free is not sustainable. So we may need to pay for search...
- godzillabrennus 4y ago
  I’d pay for DuckDuckGo but I imagine you and I would be in the minority…
  - californical 4y ago
    Kagi is basically that answer, but they have their own index (which is excellent) instead of DDG’s multi-other-index method. I use kagi almost exclusively and almost never need to type !g or !ddg. I think it’s ~$10/mo but easily worth it to me to support a privacy-first search company. I first started using them after reading about it on HN last year They also have a few nice extra features like being able to customize your own index by marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely), depending on what you like, and you get full control over that. There are only a few companies that I advocate so highly for, but I feel like they’re just so good… (Edit: maybe they don’t rely as heavily on their own index actually? Now I’m not so sure. Will look into it to fact check myself)
    - speedgoose 4y ago
      I don’t know which indexes they use and I don’t like that they aren’t disclosing it. Perhaps they have an agreement with Bing, perhaps they scrap Google search using 4G modems, perhaps they do an amazing job using Common Crawl.
      - ricardo81 4y ago
        [deleted]
    - obidan 4y ago
      Kagi does not use their own indexes, aside from perhaps very small things. They use both Bing and Google indexes. It is why the cost per search is relatively high. This change will impact them and it's currently a discussion topic on their Discord as well. Pretty sad. I just started using it a week ago and am still planning on not going back.
      - captn3m0 4y ago
        Brave Search is the only large usable independent search index that I am aware of. 92% of results come from its own index, with 10B pages indexed. https://dkb.blog/p/brave-search-interview https://dkb.blog/p/brave-search-interview
        fragmede 4y ago
        What's wrong with https://commoncrawl.org/ https://commoncrawl.org/ ?
    - giancarlostoro 4y ago
      > marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely) Finally no more Pinterest! I'm still debating Kagi, but chances are high I will subscribe.

by lgats 4y ago

usr1106 4y ago

I'd sure hope so. DDG has been my favorite search engine for at least 3 years and it would not be nice to lose it. Of course using something good for free is not sustainable. So we may need to pay for search...

godzillabrennus 4y ago
I’d pay for DuckDuckGo but I imagine you and I would be in the minority…
- californical 4y ago
  Kagi is basically that answer, but they have their own index (which is excellent) instead of DDG’s multi-other-index method. I use kagi almost exclusively and almost never need to type !g or !ddg. I think it’s ~$10/mo but easily worth it to me to support a privacy-first search company. I first started using them after reading about it on HN last year They also have a few nice extra features like being able to customize your own index by marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely), depending on what you like, and you get full control over that. There are only a few companies that I advocate so highly for, but I feel like they’re just so good… (Edit: maybe they don’t rely as heavily on their own index actually? Now I’m not so sure. Will look into it to fact check myself)
  - speedgoose 4y ago
    I don’t know which indexes they use and I don’t like that they aren’t disclosing it. Perhaps they have an agreement with Bing, perhaps they scrap Google search using 4G modems, perhaps they do an amazing job using Common Crawl.
    - ricardo81 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - obidan 4y ago
    Kagi does not use their own indexes, aside from perhaps very small things. They use both Bing and Google indexes. It is why the cost per search is relatively high. This change will impact them and it's currently a discussion topic on their Discord as well. Pretty sad. I just started using it a week ago and am still planning on not going back.
    - captn3m0 4y ago
      Brave Search is the only large usable independent search index that I am aware of. 92% of results come from its own index, with 10B pages indexed. https://dkb.blog/p/brave-search-interview https://dkb.blog/p/brave-search-interview
      - fragmede 4y ago
        What's wrong with https://commoncrawl.org/ https://commoncrawl.org/ ?
  - giancarlostoro 4y ago
    > marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely) Finally no more Pinterest! I'm still debating Kagi, but chances are high I will subscribe.