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Unpopular opinion I know, but instead of UBI, I would rather see the state create fulfilling jobs for unemployed or underemployed. Many people need meaning, pur

Unpopular opinion I know, but instead of UBI, I would rather see the state create fulfilling jobs for unemployed or underemployed. Many people need meaning, purpose, and the need to feel productive. UBI doesn't address any of that.

BoxOfRain 4y ago
Isn't that just the Victorian workhouse all over again?
- m348e912 4y ago
  I wasn't envisioning work-houses, although thanks for mentioning that because I wasn't aware of the concept. I am talking about meaningful jobs like as mentioned before, taking care of children/elderly. Public works, art, beautifying areas of a city or town, additional teachers and staff at schools (which seem to always be short-staffed)
torstenvl 4y ago
Like the CCC? https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/great-depression/civilian-conservation-corps https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/great-depression/civilia...
- steve_adams_86 4y ago
  I didn’t realize this occurred at this scale. Honest question: why aren’t the USA and Canada continuing to do this? If we are still enjoying the fruits of that effort today, was it not well worth the investment? Would it not serve the economy in the short term as well? Or perhaps this does still happen, more or less, and I just don’t understand government programs well enough. It seems we have countless environmental initiatives worth throwing people at for living wages. Is the problem maybe that these initiatives require labour that’s too sophisticated today?
BadCookie 4y ago
I like the idea. There is plenty of opportunity to give more care and attention to babies/children, the sick, and the very elderly, to start with. And that work can’t be automated.
superchroma 4y ago
No it doesn't but the theory is that people will be inclined to work all the same. Something we have to hash out going forward.
moremetadata 4y ago
Work house's dont provide meaningful or fulfilling jobs either, there are many branded work houses already doing this in the economy, some are even listed on stock markets.

BoxOfRain 4y ago

Isn't that just the Victorian workhouse all over again?

m348e912 4y ago
I wasn't envisioning work-houses, although thanks for mentioning that because I wasn't aware of the concept. I am talking about meaningful jobs like as mentioned before, taking care of children/elderly. Public works, art, beautifying areas of a city or town, additional teachers and staff at schools (which seem to always be short-staffed)

torstenvl 4y ago

Like the CCC? https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/great-depression/civilian-conservation-corps https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/great-depression/civilia...

steve_adams_86 4y ago
I didn’t realize this occurred at this scale. Honest question: why aren’t the USA and Canada continuing to do this? If we are still enjoying the fruits of that effort today, was it not well worth the investment? Would it not serve the economy in the short term as well? Or perhaps this does still happen, more or less, and I just don’t understand government programs well enough. It seems we have countless environmental initiatives worth throwing people at for living wages. Is the problem maybe that these initiatives require labour that’s too sophisticated today?

BadCookie 4y ago

I like the idea. There is plenty of opportunity to give more care and attention to babies/children, the sick, and the very elderly, to start with. And that work can’t be automated.

superchroma 4y ago

No it doesn't but the theory is that people will be inclined to work all the same. Something we have to hash out going forward.

moremetadata 4y ago

Work house's dont provide meaningful or fulfilling jobs either, there are many branded work houses already doing this in the economy, some are even listed on stock markets.