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YouTube is almost unwatchable. The show I’m viewing now has an ad every minute or so. I don’t see how they will survive another few years. They’ve literally

YouTube is almost unwatchable. The show I’m viewing now has an ad every minute or so. I don’t see how they will survive another few years. They’ve literally angered their user base to the point of abandoning the platform.

bagacrap 4y ago
You can't afford $9 a month or whatever it is to remove the ads? What other service are you planning to use instead that has no ads and no subscription fee?
voisin 4y ago
There’s no alternative (though Tik Tok certainly is doing a decent job of taking all the short content). I think it would be a gangbuster opportunity for Apple to integrate user created content into Apple TV. They don’t need to rely on ad revenue, and similar to Microsoft kneecapping Google with ChatGPT, it would be a great opportunity for Apple to further hurt Google by winning longer form video content and driving advertisers away from YouTube. But I am not sure Apple has the stomach for the controversy that often surrounds user generated content. Maybe Facebook would be the better competitor, though they are as beholden to advertisers as Google. All I know is that it will take a massively well financed group that can sustain the server costs of video streaming with most of it generating zero revenue.
- bagacrap 4y ago
  why is it apple's goal to "hurt Google"? With MSFT it's obvious that Satya is trying to distract a competitor in cloud, but chatgpt is hardly going to "kneecap" Google. Satya is hyping it with all the credibility of a used car salesman. There's zero evidence that LLMs are going to finally make Microsoft capable of launching a competitive search service.
  - voisin 4y ago
    > why is it apple's goal to "hurt Google"? I can’t tell if you are trolling. Google develops Android which is the primary competitor to Apple’s biggest product. If Google loses revenue it weakens its ability to compete. This directly benefits Apple. > With MSFT it's obvious that Satya is trying to distract a competitor in cloud, but chatgpt is hardly going to "kneecap" Google. Satya is hyping it with all the credibility of a used car salesman. There's zero evidence that LLMs are going to finally make Microsoft capable of launching a competitive search service. All the reporting on this seems to be consistent that Google is freaked out about ChatGPT, rushed its announcement of Bard, etc etc. So I guess you could have the opinion that ChatGPT isn’t a threat, but I think it is obvious you would be in the minority. No one knows for sure of course, but the smart money, and Google itself, seem to think it is a major threat.

bagacrap 4y ago

You can't afford $9 a month or whatever it is to remove the ads? What other service are you planning to use instead that has no ads and no subscription fee?

voisin 4y ago

There’s no alternative (though Tik Tok certainly is doing a decent job of taking all the short content). I think it would be a gangbuster opportunity for Apple to integrate user created content into Apple TV. They don’t need to rely on ad revenue, and similar to Microsoft kneecapping Google with ChatGPT, it would be a great opportunity for Apple to further hurt Google by winning longer form video content and driving advertisers away from YouTube. But I am not sure Apple has the stomach for the controversy that often surrounds user generated content. Maybe Facebook would be the better competitor, though they are as beholden to advertisers as Google. All I know is that it will take a massively well financed group that can sustain the server costs of video streaming with most of it generating zero revenue.

bagacrap 4y ago
why is it apple's goal to "hurt Google"? With MSFT it's obvious that Satya is trying to distract a competitor in cloud, but chatgpt is hardly going to "kneecap" Google. Satya is hyping it with all the credibility of a used car salesman. There's zero evidence that LLMs are going to finally make Microsoft capable of launching a competitive search service.
- voisin 4y ago
  > why is it apple's goal to "hurt Google"? I can’t tell if you are trolling. Google develops Android which is the primary competitor to Apple’s biggest product. If Google loses revenue it weakens its ability to compete. This directly benefits Apple. > With MSFT it's obvious that Satya is trying to distract a competitor in cloud, but chatgpt is hardly going to "kneecap" Google. Satya is hyping it with all the credibility of a used car salesman. There's zero evidence that LLMs are going to finally make Microsoft capable of launching a competitive search service. All the reporting on this seems to be consistent that Google is freaked out about ChatGPT, rushed its announcement of Bard, etc etc. So I guess you could have the opinion that ChatGPT isn’t a threat, but I think it is obvious you would be in the minority. No one knows for sure of course, but the smart money, and Google itself, seem to think it is a major threat.