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$550,000 a unit. Come on. You can’t be serious that this is a solution. https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-business-health-california-coronavirus-pandemic-83

$550,000 a unit. Come on. You can’t be serious that this is a solution. https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-business-health-california-coronavirus-pandemic-835c2091c63c199d397346a497e7ae49 https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-business-health-califor...

lapetitejort 4y ago
> CEO John Maceri said the state has set up local governments for success, but it will take a combined effort of politicians and service providers to sustain the program. He estimates conversion costs will be far less than $550,000 per unit, the going rate for building from the ground up. I assume this is where you got your number? Why skip the "far less" part?
- encoderer 4y ago
  Just fast googling. Here’s another source at $300k - still insane. https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-san-francisco-awarded-grants-to-covert-hotels-into-housing-for-homeless-residents.amp https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-san-francisco-awarded-gran...
sterlind 4y ago
The only to solve homelessness in a city, definitionally, are getting the homeless to move out, or getting them housing. Given the insane real estate prices in the area, $550K seems accurate to buy them housing. Unless you plan to round them up and ship them to camps, or find a way to get them jobs that pay well enough to lease a $550K unit, you're sort of out of options.
- encoderer 4y ago
  Homeless shelters? Seems to be a heck of a lot cheaper and more scalable than putting people up in 300-500k condos?
  - ryan_lane 4y ago
    Shelters are a temporary means of keeping people alive. They are not long-term housing and don't solve the problem. Also, they aren't cheap and they aren't scalable. We need and want shelters to exist, but only as a means of temporary housing.
    - encoderer 4y ago
      Yes they should have cheaper housing for everybody. Not expensive housing for homeless.
      - davidw 4y ago
        And that is one of the primary things that YIMBY Action is working on.

lapetitejort 4y ago

> CEO John Maceri said the state has set up local governments for success, but it will take a combined effort of politicians and service providers to sustain the program. He estimates conversion costs will be far less than $550,000 per unit, the going rate for building from the ground up. I assume this is where you got your number? Why skip the "far less" part?

encoderer 4y ago
Just fast googling. Here’s another source at $300k - still insane. https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-san-francisco-awarded-grants-to-covert-hotels-into-housing-for-homeless-residents.amp https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-san-francisco-awarded-gran...

sterlind 4y ago

The only to solve homelessness in a city, definitionally, are getting the homeless to move out, or getting them housing. Given the insane real estate prices in the area, $550K seems accurate to buy them housing. Unless you plan to round them up and ship them to camps, or find a way to get them jobs that pay well enough to lease a $550K unit, you're sort of out of options.

encoderer 4y ago
Homeless shelters? Seems to be a heck of a lot cheaper and more scalable than putting people up in 300-500k condos?
- ryan_lane 4y ago
  Shelters are a temporary means of keeping people alive. They are not long-term housing and don't solve the problem. Also, they aren't cheap and they aren't scalable. We need and want shelters to exist, but only as a means of temporary housing.
  - encoderer 4y ago
    Yes they should have cheaper housing for everybody. Not expensive housing for homeless.
    - davidw 4y ago
      And that is one of the primary things that YIMBY Action is working on.