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I feel like it's confusing to talk about gun deaths and focus on homicides when the biggest contributor to gun deaths (in the US at least) is suicide. As far as

I feel like it's confusing to talk about gun deaths and focus on homicides when the biggest contributor to gun deaths (in the US at least) is suicide. As far as I've seen the biggest thing to prevent suicide is delaying and eventually the feeling generally passes. Owning a gun just puts you at a higher risk of killing yourself, and the chances of using it to defend yourself are so slim it doesn't seem worth it to me

TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
Homicides are a huge chunk of gun deaths in the US > 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides, while 43% were murders https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-da...
TexanFeller 4y ago
I feel it's wrong to try to prevent an adult from committing suicide by legal means. My body my choice and all that, and if you don't control your own life and body are you really free? The government should try to prevent suicides by improving peoples' lives so they'll want to stay alive.
- fragmede 4y ago
  What's the government going to do to prevent someone from feeling low when they're laid off, their wife leaves them, and takes the dog? I mean, sure, if that's worth killing yourself over then there should be legal methods to seek alternate relief (which Oregon and do Canada provide). But having a gun in that momentary low after killing a 30-rack of beer because they're so distraught seems like a great way to lose some really great people.
fragmede 4y ago
You must live in a nice, gentrified neighborhood where the rich white people live. My house has never been broken into either; definitely not while I'm inside, so thankfully I do too. Not everyone is so lucky, unfortunately, so I would caution against assuming that everyone lives in such a neighborhood.
andromeduck 4y ago
Yet we're simultaneously encouraging suicides in places like Canada.

TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago

Homicides are a huge chunk of gun deaths in the US > 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides, while 43% were murders https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-da...

TexanFeller 4y ago

I feel it's wrong to try to prevent an adult from committing suicide by legal means. My body my choice and all that, and if you don't control your own life and body are you really free? The government should try to prevent suicides by improving peoples' lives so they'll want to stay alive.

fragmede 4y ago
What's the government going to do to prevent someone from feeling low when they're laid off, their wife leaves them, and takes the dog? I mean, sure, if that's worth killing yourself over then there should be legal methods to seek alternate relief (which Oregon and do Canada provide). But having a gun in that momentary low after killing a 30-rack of beer because they're so distraught seems like a great way to lose some really great people.

fragmede 4y ago

You must live in a nice, gentrified neighborhood where the rich white people live. My house has never been broken into either; definitely not while I'm inside, so thankfully I do too. Not everyone is so lucky, unfortunately, so I would caution against assuming that everyone lives in such a neighborhood.

andromeduck 4y ago

Yet we're simultaneously encouraging suicides in places like Canada.