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Something is changing and it’s very broken so people are paying attention to it. If people really wanted to fix transportation that’s great, high speed rail an

Something is changing and it’s very broken so people are paying attention to it. If people really wanted to fix transportation that’s great, high speed rail and public transportation reducing the number of cars on the road seem to be the best solution. But hey, Elon’s hyper loop was a publicity stunt to discourage investment in that. So I say, whether you want to shit on Tesla or public roads, shit on Elon.

panick21_ 4y ago
> reducing the number of cars on the road seem to be the best solution. No actually its actually not. Less concession in a system that depends on concession for safety will lead to more accident not less. That is what was shown during Covid, less driving, but accidents per mile went up. So yes, of course public transport, bikes are great, but if you don't fix the underlying problem in the road system, you are gone have a whole lot of accidents. > But hey, Elon’s hyper loop was a publicity stunt to discourage investment in that. This is a claim some guy has made, not the truth. What is more likely is that Musk actually thinks Hyperloop is great (its his idea after all) and would have wanted investment in it. > shit on Elon I prefer not to shit on people most of the time. Musk is the outcome of a South Africa/American way of thought that is more in line with the US avg then most people who advocate for public transport. That is the sad reality. And the problem in the US road system or the US bad public transport can 100% not be blamed on him. There are many people with far more responsibility that deserve to be shit on far more.
- philosopher1234 4y ago
  What is the underlying problem? I keep looking for it in your comments
  - monissiddiqui 4y ago
    Not GP, but the underlying problem to me is repeat zero-sum interactions in a crony capitalism based system. All the shit stems from the winners that emerge from these repeated games making short term decisions to either allow them to exit or play again.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  accidents per mile driven isn't a good metric. If you half the number of miles driven (through public transit/walking/biking) and have 50% more accidents per mile driven then you've still saved a bunch of people's lives.
  - janalsncm 4y ago
    Yes, and miles driven are not fungible either. Accidents are more likely on local streets.

panick21_ 4y ago

> reducing the number of cars on the road seem to be the best solution. No actually its actually not. Less concession in a system that depends on concession for safety will lead to more accident not less. That is what was shown during Covid, less driving, but accidents per mile went up. So yes, of course public transport, bikes are great, but if you don't fix the underlying problem in the road system, you are gone have a whole lot of accidents. > But hey, Elon’s hyper loop was a publicity stunt to discourage investment in that. This is a claim some guy has made, not the truth. What is more likely is that Musk actually thinks Hyperloop is great (its his idea after all) and would have wanted investment in it. > shit on Elon I prefer not to shit on people most of the time. Musk is the outcome of a South Africa/American way of thought that is more in line with the US avg then most people who advocate for public transport. That is the sad reality. And the problem in the US road system or the US bad public transport can 100% not be blamed on him. There are many people with far more responsibility that deserve to be shit on far more.

philosopher1234 4y ago
What is the underlying problem? I keep looking for it in your comments
- monissiddiqui 4y ago
  Not GP, but the underlying problem to me is repeat zero-sum interactions in a crony capitalism based system. All the shit stems from the winners that emerge from these repeated games making short term decisions to either allow them to exit or play again.
adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
accidents per mile driven isn't a good metric. If you half the number of miles driven (through public transit/walking/biking) and have 50% more accidents per mile driven then you've still saved a bunch of people's lives.
- janalsncm 4y ago
  Yes, and miles driven are not fungible either. Accidents are more likely on local streets.