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The amount of hyperbole and completely uninformed takes around FSD is eye opening. I’ll completely agree that “Full self driving” is a misleading name, and the

by kbos87 4y ago

The amount of hyperbole and completely uninformed takes around FSD is eye opening. I’ll completely agree that “Full self driving” is a misleading name, and they should be forced to change it, full stop. That being said, it’s exceptionally clear that all the responsibility is on you, the driver, while you are using it. The messaging in the vehicle is concise and constant (not just the wall of text you read when opting in.) Eye tracking makes sure you are actually engaged and looking at the road, otherwise the car will disengage and you’ll eventually lose the ability to use FSD. Why is there never a mention of this in any coverage? Because it’s more salacious to believe people are asleep at the wheel. Is it perfect? No, though it’s a lot better than many people seem to want the world to believe. It’s so easy to overlook the fact that human drivers are also very, very far from perfect.

InCityDreams 4y ago
>....“Full self driving” is a misleading name, and they should be forced to change it, full stop. Problem and solution. Nothing more need be said.
- culi 4y ago
  This one issue is one of the primary reasons Google ended up deciding not to acquire Tesla really early on. Google's been way ahead of them for a long time and their engineers were extremely aware of how reckless this type of marketing from Musk was But the marketing worked. They sold the dream to people and only got sued a couple times and still got the most subsidization of any automaker
Barrin92 4y ago
>That being said, it’s exceptionally clear that all the responsibility is on you, the driver Virtually every study ever done on human-machine interaction shows that users will inevitably lose reaction time and attention when they are engaged with half automated systems given that constant context switching creates extreme issues. Waymo did studies on this in the earlier days and very quickly came to the conclusion that it's full autonomy or nothing. Comparisons to human performance are nonsensical because machines don't operate like human beings. If factory floor robots had the error rate of a human being you'd find a lot of limbs on the floor. When we interact with autonomous systems that a human can never predict precision needs to far exceed that of a human being for the cooperation to work. A two ton blackbox moving at speeds that kill people is not something any user can responsibly engage with at all.

by kbos87 4y ago

InCityDreams 4y ago

>....“Full self driving” is a misleading name, and they should be forced to change it, full stop. Problem and solution. Nothing more need be said.

culi 4y ago
This one issue is one of the primary reasons Google ended up deciding not to acquire Tesla really early on. Google's been way ahead of them for a long time and their engineers were extremely aware of how reckless this type of marketing from Musk was But the marketing worked. They sold the dream to people and only got sued a couple times and still got the most subsidization of any automaker

Barrin92 4y ago

>That being said, it’s exceptionally clear that all the responsibility is on you, the driver Virtually every study ever done on human-machine interaction shows that users will inevitably lose reaction time and attention when they are engaged with half automated systems given that constant context switching creates extreme issues. Waymo did studies on this in the earlier days and very quickly came to the conclusion that it's full autonomy or nothing. Comparisons to human performance are nonsensical because machines don't operate like human beings. If factory floor robots had the error rate of a human being you'd find a lot of limbs on the floor. When we interact with autonomous systems that a human can never predict precision needs to far exceed that of a human being for the cooperation to work. A two ton blackbox moving at speeds that kill people is not something any user can responsibly engage with at all.