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What is your threat model? Are you buying incriminating goods at the grocery store? What do you gain by putting yourself through all that? Or what are you preve

What is your threat model? Are you buying incriminating goods at the grocery store? What do you gain by putting yourself through all that? Or what are you preventing / protecting yourself from?

pixl97 4y ago
> Are you buying incriminating goods at the grocery store You mean hummus, right? Or do you mean the store selling of your eating habits pretty much every entity out there. Pretty sure eating isn't HIPAA related, but correlated to potential health.
- nanidin 4y ago
  So the threat model is to prevent insurers from gaining knowledge that you buy 5L of sugary soda per week? I agree there is some privacy concern, but I am having a hard time articulating how or why that data might actually impact a person in a net negative way.
  - fsflover 4y ago
    What if I buy everything gluten-free?
  - pixl97 4y ago
    http://web.archive.org/web/20071221122513/http:/cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=hsnews-000002620892 http://web.archive.org/web/20071221122513/http:/cqpolitics.c...
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    I literally don't care if places don't do anything with this info, I'm saying they have no right to it. If they want it they can negotiate with me and I'll give them an insane price. Right now they just do it whether I consent or not.
breakpointalpha 4y ago
A free person shouldn't have to articulate why they need privacy. Privacy should be the default in free societies. I can play this game though: you are pregnant, but have not shared that information yet with your family because it's early term and there might be complications. The grocery store accurately predicts you are pregnant from your shopping habits (change in diet, per-natal vitamins, "New Mommy Magazine"). The grocery store snail mails you a New Mommy coupon book as a "thank you." Your family sees this and confronts you, forcing you to reveal your medical status against your wishes. This is a scary outcome WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. https://bit.ly/3S3hlrA https://bit.ly/3S3hlrA
- nanidin 4y ago
  The commenter I responded to initially wrote as if they actively seek anonymity by taking several inconvenient steps every time they shop, even when they presumably have nothing to hide. I wanted to understand what drove that behavior and if it was worth it. They don't have to articulate it, but inability to articulate might be a sign of overcautiousness / paranoia that is having a negative impact on their life. If one has something to hide - then sure, take extra steps to be anon. Otherwise, why put yourself through so much trouble?
JohnFen 4y ago
> what are you preventing / protecting yourself from? I am protecting myself from having more data about me entered into databases. Why is that important to me? For exactly the same reason that I have curtains on my windows.

What is your threat model? Are you buying incriminating goods at the grocery store? What do you gain by putting yourself through all that? Or what are you preventing / protecting yourself from?

pixl97 4y ago

> Are you buying incriminating goods at the grocery store You mean hummus, right? Or do you mean the store selling of your eating habits pretty much every entity out there. Pretty sure eating isn't HIPAA related, but correlated to potential health.

nanidin 4y ago
So the threat model is to prevent insurers from gaining knowledge that you buy 5L of sugary soda per week? I agree there is some privacy concern, but I am having a hard time articulating how or why that data might actually impact a person in a net negative way.
- fsflover 4y ago
  What if I buy everything gluten-free?
- pixl97 4y ago
  http://web.archive.org/web/20071221122513/http:/cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=hsnews-000002620892 http://web.archive.org/web/20071221122513/http:/cqpolitics.c...
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  I literally don't care if places don't do anything with this info, I'm saying they have no right to it. If they want it they can negotiate with me and I'll give them an insane price. Right now they just do it whether I consent or not.

breakpointalpha 4y ago

A free person shouldn't have to articulate why they need privacy. Privacy should be the default in free societies. I can play this game though: you are pregnant, but have not shared that information yet with your family because it's early term and there might be complications. The grocery store accurately predicts you are pregnant from your shopping habits (change in diet, per-natal vitamins, "New Mommy Magazine"). The grocery store snail mails you a New Mommy coupon book as a "thank you." Your family sees this and confronts you, forcing you to reveal your medical status against your wishes. This is a scary outcome WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. https://bit.ly/3S3hlrA https://bit.ly/3S3hlrA

nanidin 4y ago
The commenter I responded to initially wrote as if they actively seek anonymity by taking several inconvenient steps every time they shop, even when they presumably have nothing to hide. I wanted to understand what drove that behavior and if it was worth it. They don't have to articulate it, but inability to articulate might be a sign of overcautiousness / paranoia that is having a negative impact on their life. If one has something to hide - then sure, take extra steps to be anon. Otherwise, why put yourself through so much trouble?

JohnFen 4y ago

> what are you preventing / protecting yourself from? I am protecting myself from having more data about me entered into databases. Why is that important to me? For exactly the same reason that I have curtains on my windows.