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Disagree. I've had the beta for a year and drive in NYC. It has been mostly flawless considering all scenarios it has to handle. It does make the occasional mis
by billfor 4y ago
Disagree. I've had the beta for a year and drive in NYC. It has been mostly flawless considering all scenarios it has to handle. It does make the occasional mistake but (1) it's a beta and (2) I'm responsible for monitoring and correcting it. Agree that those that expected more should be entitled to a refund if they so desire.
- ceejayoz 4y agoConsider the possibility that you might both be right. Two people may have vastly different experiences with FSD, depending on the routes they take and other variables.
- ricardobeat 4y agoAlso some people may have a very low tolerance for the car not driving like they would. It does make you uncomfortable .
- root_axis 4y ago> It does make the occasional mistake Yeah, that's what I mean by "dangerous".
- panick21_ 4y agoOk but don't you have to weigh that against the potential of avoiding accidents by reacting quicker then you as a human can? I have defiantly seen cases where FSD Beta stopped and the driver didn't understand instantly understand why. Or simpler cases where the car follows a lane while the driver wasn't paying attention (adjusting the radio or whatever). Those can easily lead to an accident but are unlikely to if you are in FSD. How do you make that calculation?
- root_axis 4y agoThe calculation is easy, FSD does the wrong thing so often that there's no question a human driver is safer.
- panick21_ 4y agoThe question is not if FSD makes mistakes, its if FSD+a human driver monitoring is worse then a human driver.
- root_axis 4y agoAll the available scientific evidence suggests these systems diminish driver focus and attention which definitely makes them less safe since these systems can't be operated safely without an attentive driver.
- panick21_ 4y agoI have seen some evidence bases on some limited lane keeping systems that suggest this. But not on systems that are as advanced as FSD Beta for inner-city with the same amount of forcing the drives attention systems.