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What about a Faraday bag?

JohnFen 4y ago
A faraday bag works (but be sure to test it). Be aware, though, that phones will increase their radio power and retry constantly when they aren't reaching a cell tower. If the increased battery drain is an issue, put your phone in airplane mode first.
foxyv 4y ago
That is a great option.
Eumenes 4y ago
anyone have any suggestions for a Faraday bag?
- bobsoap 4y ago
  Two bags of chips. With or without the chips. https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/terminator-dark-fate-chips/18843/ https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/terminator-dark-fate-chips/18...
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    Wrapping it in aluminum foil works, too. Anything that completely surrounds the phone with conductive material will do the job.
devmunchies 4y ago
theoretically the phone could still record all audio and then sync with the cloud when back online, but I'm grasping at straws here.
- fsflover 4y ago
  In such case the solution is to have hardware kill switches, like on my Librem 5.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    That kind of phone goes so far to protect your privacy it won't even let you use it to call anyone. (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/librem-5-review-the-linux-based-smartphone-is-not-close-to-consumer-ready/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/librem-5-review-the-lin...). The real solution is regulation with lots of teeth and oversight, so we don't have to depend on flawed products that don't work.
    - fsflover 4y ago
      This is an extremely old review, when the software was in beta. Phone calls are working fine for me now. Regulations are great, but I prefer to have both kinds of defense.
      - autoexec 4y ago
        That's a good sign! I'd given up all hope for the Librem and pinephone. I guess it's time to take another look... I agree that hardware switches are ideal, but I don't see them being common since most of the folks pushing out phones want to use those devices to collect data on the people who buy them.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Why would it, though? If you're the sort who puts your phone into a faraday cage, you're not the sort who will install an app from the stores.
  - devmunchies 4y ago
    zero day OS-level exploit by some govt? idk.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      I thought we were talking about retail stores here, not governments. If your threat model is governmental, then that's a whole different thing entirely. You'll have to go to true extremes to even have a chance at defending against that. For instance, you shouldn't have a cell phone at all.

A faraday bag works (but be sure to test it). Be aware, though, that phones will increase their radio power and retry constantly when they aren't reaching a cell tower. If the increased battery drain is an issue, put your phone in airplane mode first.

foxyv 4y ago

That is a great option.

Eumenes 4y ago

anyone have any suggestions for a Faraday bag?

bobsoap 4y ago
Two bags of chips. With or without the chips. https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/terminator-dark-fate-chips/18843/ https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/terminator-dark-fate-chips/18...
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Wrapping it in aluminum foil works, too. Anything that completely surrounds the phone with conductive material will do the job.

devmunchies 4y ago

theoretically the phone could still record all audio and then sync with the cloud when back online, but I'm grasping at straws here.

fsflover 4y ago
In such case the solution is to have hardware kill switches, like on my Librem 5.
- autoexec 4y ago
  That kind of phone goes so far to protect your privacy it won't even let you use it to call anyone. (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/librem-5-review-the-linux-based-smartphone-is-not-close-to-consumer-ready/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/librem-5-review-the-lin...). The real solution is regulation with lots of teeth and oversight, so we don't have to depend on flawed products that don't work.
  - fsflover 4y ago
    This is an extremely old review, when the software was in beta. Phone calls are working fine for me now. Regulations are great, but I prefer to have both kinds of defense.
    - autoexec 4y ago
      That's a good sign! I'd given up all hope for the Librem and pinephone. I guess it's time to take another look... I agree that hardware switches are ideal, but I don't see them being common since most of the folks pushing out phones want to use those devices to collect data on the people who buy them.
JohnFen 4y ago
Why would it, though? If you're the sort who puts your phone into a faraday cage, you're not the sort who will install an app from the stores.
- devmunchies 4y ago
  zero day OS-level exploit by some govt? idk.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I thought we were talking about retail stores here, not governments. If your threat model is governmental, then that's a whole different thing entirely. You'll have to go to true extremes to even have a chance at defending against that. For instance, you shouldn't have a cell phone at all.