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After having a Tesla with Enhanced Autopilot for 4 years, I decided it wasn't worth the $7,000 extra and stuck with ordinary autopilot. It's just too damn glit

After having a Tesla with Enhanced Autopilot for 4 years, I decided it wasn't worth the $7,000 extra and stuck with ordinary autopilot. It's just too damn glitchy to be worth thousands of dollars extra.

rootusrootus 4y ago
Hell, right now I'd pay a few bucks to disable AP so I could use the old school cruise control. I still don't understand Tesla's opposition for making that an option whether you have AP or not.
- noduerme 4y ago
  Teslas don't have cruise control?! The arrogance...
  - xeromal 4y ago
    They do.
  - xdavidliu 4y ago
    they meant "save a few thousand dollars so my Tesla can just have the ordinary cruise control that it comes with, without the autopilot which I believe to be unusable"
    - gwbas1c 4y ago
      No, I didn't mean that at all. All Teslas come with Autopilot. It's adaptive cruise control and automatic steering that will keep you in your lane. It's awesome, and I love it. "Enhanced" autopilot, which currently is $6000 extra, is automatic lane change, automatically taking exits, summon, and automatic parking. The automatic lane change is nice, but it fails too often to be worth thousands of dollars. All the rest of the features are basically party tricks. If I could have automatic lane changes for much less, I'd happily pay extra for it. Edit: Enhanced Autopilot was $7k extra when I bought my 2nd Tesla, now it's $6k extra.
      - vel0city 4y ago
        > All Teslas come with Autopilot. It's adaptive cruise control and automatic steering that will keep you in your lane. So like every Honda Accord as well.
        gwbas1c 4y ago
        And it works in stop and go traffic. The Accord only goes down to something like 30-40 mph.
        vel0city 4y ago
        Example video of Honda Sensing low speed follow/stop and go traffic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-e8QzTo7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-e8QzTo7w You don't need to be in 30+mph traffic for Honda Sensing to work. Most Level 2 ADAS systems behave similarly.
        vel0city 4y ago
        Accords work in stop and go traffic as well. My 2017 Hyundai also works in stop and go traffic.
      - noduerme 4y ago
        Prices and packages aside, I'm asking can you turn on basic cruise control without turning on any form of automatic steering? To me, design hubris is forcing someone to accept a choice-limiting or poorly documented form of automation in order to accept a more basic form. I have a Fiat 124 Spider... love it, but it has one "feature" that I absolutely hate, which is that if you hold the clutch down and brake while stopped on an uphill incline, it holds the brake for 2 seconds after you take your foot off. Presumably this is for people who don't know how to balance clutch on a hill... although the overlap between those people and the people who'd buy this car must be vanishingly low. You can disable this dumb thing - but the only way to do it is to pull the fuse that controls antilock brakes. It's infuriating.
        gwbas1c 4y ago
- ggreer 4y ago
  To engage traffic aware cruise control, pull the right stalk down once.
  - 15155 4y ago
    But make sure you have your seatbelt on first!

rootusrootus 4y ago

Hell, right now I'd pay a few bucks to disable AP so I could use the old school cruise control. I still don't understand Tesla's opposition for making that an option whether you have AP or not.

noduerme 4y ago
Teslas don't have cruise control?! The arrogance...
- xeromal 4y ago
  They do.
- xdavidliu 4y ago
  they meant "save a few thousand dollars so my Tesla can just have the ordinary cruise control that it comes with, without the autopilot which I believe to be unusable"
  - gwbas1c 4y ago
    No, I didn't mean that at all. All Teslas come with Autopilot. It's adaptive cruise control and automatic steering that will keep you in your lane. It's awesome, and I love it. "Enhanced" autopilot, which currently is $6000 extra, is automatic lane change, automatically taking exits, summon, and automatic parking. The automatic lane change is nice, but it fails too often to be worth thousands of dollars. All the rest of the features are basically party tricks. If I could have automatic lane changes for much less, I'd happily pay extra for it. Edit: Enhanced Autopilot was $7k extra when I bought my 2nd Tesla, now it's $6k extra.
    - vel0city 4y ago
      > All Teslas come with Autopilot. It's adaptive cruise control and automatic steering that will keep you in your lane. So like every Honda Accord as well.
      - gwbas1c 4y ago
        And it works in stop and go traffic. The Accord only goes down to something like 30-40 mph.
        vel0city 4y ago
        Example video of Honda Sensing low speed follow/stop and go traffic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-e8QzTo7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-e8QzTo7w You don't need to be in 30+mph traffic for Honda Sensing to work. Most Level 2 ADAS systems behave similarly.
        vel0city 4y ago
        Accords work in stop and go traffic as well. My 2017 Hyundai also works in stop and go traffic.
    - noduerme 4y ago
      Prices and packages aside, I'm asking can you turn on basic cruise control without turning on any form of automatic steering? To me, design hubris is forcing someone to accept a choice-limiting or poorly documented form of automation in order to accept a more basic form. I have a Fiat 124 Spider... love it, but it has one "feature" that I absolutely hate, which is that if you hold the clutch down and brake while stopped on an uphill incline, it holds the brake for 2 seconds after you take your foot off. Presumably this is for people who don't know how to balance clutch on a hill... although the overlap between those people and the people who'd buy this car must be vanishingly low. You can disable this dumb thing - but the only way to do it is to pull the fuse that controls antilock brakes. It's infuriating.
      - gwbas1c 4y ago
ggreer 4y ago
To engage traffic aware cruise control, pull the right stalk down once.
- 15155 4y ago
  But make sure you have your seatbelt on first!