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Honestly… if we could figure out how to separate agriculture and groceries from the rest of the economy, we’d be a happier species. It’s so fucked up that the a

Honestly… if we could figure out how to separate agriculture and groceries from the rest of the economy, we’d be a happier species. It’s so fucked up that the ability to feed yourself is tied to a dick measuring contest between a handful of ultra wealthy.

algoatecorn 4y ago
In what way? That's an interesting idea, but I can't think of how that would help. It's a balance between economies of scale without cartel formation vs fragmentation and inefficiency. Food prices are incredibly low due to consolidation and efficiency of farms and retailers. Just look at food spending as a percent of income over time.
- raydiatian 4y ago
  > how would it help Because there’s lots of evidence that correlates socioeconomic status with access to nutrition. It’s almost like you are what you eat, or something. Nobody is 300lbs eating daily the foods that trigger ketosis. It’s not the outrageous availability of corn that is driving demand for corn syrup, right? I respect that to a degree people are responsible for their own nutrition. But there are plenty of people that lack life experience diff’ing how they feel on a week of McDonalds vs how they feel on a week of literally anything else. > food prices are incredibly low I.. they’re not, but please share where you’re living globally where this is true, because omw! Also I get that basically the Soviet Union failed this exact idea.
  - algoatecorn 4y ago
    > I.. they’re not, but please share where you’re living globally where this is true, because omw! Go look at % of income spent on food over time. In the US, that number is currently 7-15% - an incredible feat and underlooked luxury.
Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
Barter with your local farmer. Oh wait none of us have local farmers anymore thanks to government policies over the last century. Even fewer in the future in europe thanks to "nitrogen regulations".
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > none of us have local farmers anymore That's not true in most of the US outside of large cities. And even in large cities, there's probably a CSA organization. You'll pay more, of course, but the goods you get are much better.

algoatecorn 4y ago

In what way? That's an interesting idea, but I can't think of how that would help. It's a balance between economies of scale without cartel formation vs fragmentation and inefficiency. Food prices are incredibly low due to consolidation and efficiency of farms and retailers. Just look at food spending as a percent of income over time.

raydiatian 4y ago
> how would it help Because there’s lots of evidence that correlates socioeconomic status with access to nutrition. It’s almost like you are what you eat, or something. Nobody is 300lbs eating daily the foods that trigger ketosis. It’s not the outrageous availability of corn that is driving demand for corn syrup, right? I respect that to a degree people are responsible for their own nutrition. But there are plenty of people that lack life experience diff’ing how they feel on a week of McDonalds vs how they feel on a week of literally anything else. > food prices are incredibly low I.. they’re not, but please share where you’re living globally where this is true, because omw! Also I get that basically the Soviet Union failed this exact idea.
- algoatecorn 4y ago
  > I.. they’re not, but please share where you’re living globally where this is true, because omw! Go look at % of income spent on food over time. In the US, that number is currently 7-15% - an incredible feat and underlooked luxury.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago

Barter with your local farmer. Oh wait none of us have local farmers anymore thanks to government policies over the last century. Even fewer in the future in europe thanks to "nitrogen regulations".

JohnFen 4y ago
> none of us have local farmers anymore That's not true in most of the US outside of large cities. And even in large cities, there's probably a CSA organization. You'll pay more, of course, but the goods you get are much better.