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So much hate for her on all fronts, yet she made the most rewarding media platform today on the internet. Any creator or consumer who has half a brain should re

So much hate for her on all fronts, yet she made the most rewarding media platform today on the internet. Any creator or consumer who has half a brain should realize the magnitude of the feat and how unobvious it is that YouTube exists as it does today.

pzduniak 4y ago
Rewarding to who? And _she_ made it? To me YT continued its successful streak despite of the poor changes with not much to attribute to people actually making the calls.
- ncann 4y ago
  Exactly, she was only CEO since 2014. Saying she made YT is laughable, if anything most of the annoying things at YT happened under her reign, from bogus DMCAs to dislike button removal to the force fed YT shorts and so on.
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  - causi 4y ago
    Don't forget having to have a fucking Google+ account. I'm proudly one of the few who spent half a decade being unable to comment or send direct messages because I refused to assent to the Google+ account creation pop-up.
    - nostrademons 4y ago
      That wasn't under her. Google+ launched in 2011; Salar Kamangar was CEO of YouTube at the time.
    - zo1 4y ago
      Google plus is still "around", it's just not a social media network. A conspiracy theorist would argue it succeeded in its purpose: to unify all accounts under a single Google account banner. Google music, android, YouTube, maps, Gmail, search, drive, etc. We didn't even notice it happening, like frogs being boiled. E.g. try being anonymous on a fresh Android device now. You can't even access the play store without logging in.
  - robotnikman 4y ago
    Youtube before 2014 was great, I definitely feel like there was a big decline in quality in both content, the app, and the website since then.
ecf 4y ago
She didn’t “make” anything. Your average employee working at YouTube did.
nus07 4y ago
Ever heard of Jawed Karim?
qbasic_forever 4y ago
YouTube was an acquisition. Susan had zero input in its creation, she was working at Google at the time.
- bagacrap 4y ago
  The yt of today and the yt of 2006 are very different services. If anything, Google bought a userbase and a brand name and built its own service from there.
benatkin 4y ago
I disagree. She was the CEO and was clearly not great from the perspective of users, in part because the real customers are advertisers. People who say "um, ok" when a CEO at a user-hostile corporation leaves are not haters. I know there are plenty of actual haters but I don't see "so much hate". Also from Wikipedia: "YouTube was founded by Steve Chen, Chad Hurley, and Jawed Karim. The trio were early employees of PayPal, which left them enriched after the company was bought by eBay. Hurley had studied design at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania, and Chen and Karim studied computer science together at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign."
- jongjong 4y ago
  If you're CEO of such a successful company and are surrounded by smart people, you don't have to be very good to keep the thing running... Any modest person with half a brain could do it. Getting respect from employees these days is not difficult; most of them are extreme conformists and worship power for its own sake. They will interpret any dumb words out of your mouth as words of wisdom. Even if everything you say is idiotic, they will bend so far as to assume you speak in metaphors.
  - benatkin 4y ago
    She did a good job, however, we had to see negative likes removed, a lot of really quality content demonetized, content creators removing words to avoid demonetization, and annoying af discovery algorithms. These were all things that she helped bring about, but that were in keeping with Google's strategy. Removing dislikes is similar to Google's search ads, where Google is happy to show all kinds of crap and it's up to you to filter them out. Caveat emptor. Still, I think YouTube is better than average for social media. Its censorship of words sucked, but its censorship of ideas wasn't so bad. It was worse on other platforms.
queuebert 4y ago
She didn't build anything. She got Google to buy it.
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BitwiseFool 4y ago
>"yet she made the most rewarding media platform today on the internet." I think TikTok holds this position, not YouTube. Indeed, YouTube seems to be pushing really hard for Shorts to be a viable competitor but it doesn't seem to be working. Or, do you mean rewarding in terms of monetization for creators and not engagement?
- bagacrap 4y ago
  By usage metrics, yt shorts are very successful. I don't think they've proven very easily monetizable yet though.
- izacus 4y ago
  YouTube is killing TikTok at creator payments which is why most known channels didn't go anywhere.

pzduniak 4y ago

Rewarding to who? And _she_ made it? To me YT continued its successful streak despite of the poor changes with not much to attribute to people actually making the calls.

ncann 4y ago
Exactly, she was only CEO since 2014. Saying she made YT is laughable, if anything most of the annoying things at YT happened under her reign, from bogus DMCAs to dislike button removal to the force fed YT shorts and so on.
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- causi 4y ago
  Don't forget having to have a fucking Google+ account. I'm proudly one of the few who spent half a decade being unable to comment or send direct messages because I refused to assent to the Google+ account creation pop-up.
  - nostrademons 4y ago
    That wasn't under her. Google+ launched in 2011; Salar Kamangar was CEO of YouTube at the time.
  - zo1 4y ago
    Google plus is still "around", it's just not a social media network. A conspiracy theorist would argue it succeeded in its purpose: to unify all accounts under a single Google account banner. Google music, android, YouTube, maps, Gmail, search, drive, etc. We didn't even notice it happening, like frogs being boiled. E.g. try being anonymous on a fresh Android device now. You can't even access the play store without logging in.
- robotnikman 4y ago
  Youtube before 2014 was great, I definitely feel like there was a big decline in quality in both content, the app, and the website since then.

ecf 4y ago

She didn’t “make” anything. Your average employee working at YouTube did.

nus07 4y ago

Ever heard of Jawed Karim?

qbasic_forever 4y ago

YouTube was an acquisition. Susan had zero input in its creation, she was working at Google at the time.

bagacrap 4y ago
The yt of today and the yt of 2006 are very different services. If anything, Google bought a userbase and a brand name and built its own service from there.

benatkin 4y ago

I disagree. She was the CEO and was clearly not great from the perspective of users, in part because the real customers are advertisers. People who say "um, ok" when a CEO at a user-hostile corporation leaves are not haters. I know there are plenty of actual haters but I don't see "so much hate". Also from Wikipedia: "YouTube was founded by Steve Chen, Chad Hurley, and Jawed Karim. The trio were early employees of PayPal, which left them enriched after the company was bought by eBay. Hurley had studied design at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania, and Chen and Karim studied computer science together at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign."

jongjong 4y ago
If you're CEO of such a successful company and are surrounded by smart people, you don't have to be very good to keep the thing running... Any modest person with half a brain could do it. Getting respect from employees these days is not difficult; most of them are extreme conformists and worship power for its own sake. They will interpret any dumb words out of your mouth as words of wisdom. Even if everything you say is idiotic, they will bend so far as to assume you speak in metaphors.
- benatkin 4y ago
  She did a good job, however, we had to see negative likes removed, a lot of really quality content demonetized, content creators removing words to avoid demonetization, and annoying af discovery algorithms. These were all things that she helped bring about, but that were in keeping with Google's strategy. Removing dislikes is similar to Google's search ads, where Google is happy to show all kinds of crap and it's up to you to filter them out. Caveat emptor. Still, I think YouTube is better than average for social media. Its censorship of words sucked, but its censorship of ideas wasn't so bad. It was worse on other platforms.

queuebert 4y ago

She didn't build anything. She got Google to buy it.

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BitwiseFool 4y ago

>"yet she made the most rewarding media platform today on the internet." I think TikTok holds this position, not YouTube. Indeed, YouTube seems to be pushing really hard for Shorts to be a viable competitor but it doesn't seem to be working. Or, do you mean rewarding in terms of monetization for creators and not engagement?

bagacrap 4y ago
By usage metrics, yt shorts are very successful. I don't think they've proven very easily monetizable yet though.
izacus 4y ago
YouTube is killing TikTok at creator payments which is why most known channels didn't go anywhere.