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Here in Sweden we solve that kind of problem with speed cameras that issue automatic speeding tickets…

notch898a 4y ago
Where I live they had those but the people running the cameras would snap the photos and stack them so you'd get 60 or 90 days of violations and then they would send them in a big stack so you wouldn't know until the last minute you even did anything wrong, and get all 90 at once. There was also the issue of due process, which means a process server ($$$) had to actually serve the person (who would probably hide and not answer the door) as just sending it in the mail isn't legally considered served. The other issue is for them to mean anything beyond a civil penalty against the car, you need to show who the driver was and give the public a chance to face their accuser. So people just started driving to work with ski masks, etc and if actually caught would demand a representative from the photo company actually show up in court. In the off chance you actually were found guilty after all that (process server actually got to you, proved it was your face, accuser actually showed up in court, no technicality was found, and on and on) then the city had to spend practically half the fine money on royalty/maintenance fees to the companies running the camera (the city doesn't have the expertise to do all that on their own). You can imagine the anger and resentment that caused amongst the populace about sending their money away to some for-profit black hole (the executives of this company themselves are on record dodging the process servers too lol after being snapped by their own camera). It is so abused and fucked up system from so many angles at least where I live it was voted out after having been thoroughly tested and tried.
- ethanbond 4y ago
  Every single one of these problems is solvable by a society who actually cares to make roads safe. But fundamentally you just have a bunch of assholes who think arriving literal MINUTES earlier to something is worth putting their own and dozens/hundreds of strangers’ lives at risk.
Gud 4y ago
There are no speed cameras on the highways though. But on principle, Sweden does it best with the cameras. Before the camera, there is warning sign that gives you plenty of time to slow down(unless you are seriously speeding) which makes much more sense than hidden cameras IMHO. It makes people slow down at dangerous spots on the road, which is the whole point with the cameras right?

Where I live they had those but the people running the cameras would snap the photos and stack them so you'd get 60 or 90 days of violations and then they would send them in a big stack so you wouldn't know until the last minute you even did anything wrong, and get all 90 at once. There was also the issue of due process, which means a process server ($$$) had to actually serve the person (who would probably hide and not answer the door) as just sending it in the mail isn't legally considered served. The other issue is for them to mean anything beyond a civil penalty against the car, you need to show who the driver was and give the public a chance to face their accuser. So people just started driving to work with ski masks, etc and if actually caught would demand a representative from the photo company actually show up in court. In the off chance you actually were found guilty after all that (process server actually got to you, proved it was your face, accuser actually showed up in court, no technicality was found, and on and on) then the city had to spend practically half the fine money on royalty/maintenance fees to the companies running the camera (the city doesn't have the expertise to do all that on their own). You can imagine the anger and resentment that caused amongst the populace about sending their money away to some for-profit black hole (the executives of this company themselves are on record dodging the process servers too lol after being snapped by their own camera). It is so abused and fucked up system from so many angles at least where I live it was voted out after having been thoroughly tested and tried.

ethanbond 4y ago
Every single one of these problems is solvable by a society who actually cares to make roads safe. But fundamentally you just have a bunch of assholes who think arriving literal MINUTES earlier to something is worth putting their own and dozens/hundreds of strangers’ lives at risk.

Gud 4y ago

There are no speed cameras on the highways though. But on principle, Sweden does it best with the cameras. Before the camera, there is warning sign that gives you plenty of time to slow down(unless you are seriously speeding) which makes much more sense than hidden cameras IMHO. It makes people slow down at dangerous spots on the road, which is the whole point with the cameras right?