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Thanks for this. Nice to see it at the top of the conversation. Two words: Operation Mockingbird. The big news outlets get daily intelligence briefs. This isn't

Thanks for this. Nice to see it at the top of the conversation. Two words: Operation Mockingbird. The big news outlets get daily intelligence briefs. This isn't even controversial. But the real problem within that setting is self-censorship. You don't get the job unless you've proven than you know what not to say. Many credible books on that topic to read.

pas 4y ago
Two words: evidence where? > Many credible books on that topic to read. Yes, exactly as credible reporter guy explained how the US blow up the pipeline. Many credible substacks!
- bilekas 4y ago
  Seymour Hersh is the Journalist/Investigative Reporter and he does not mess around. Not just some 'substack'. I suspect some of the larger outlets would not publish it without source information etc and as I mentioned Seymour Hersh is well known for sticking to his word of "Not revealing sources".
  - pas 4y ago
    That's appeal to authority. And it's a good hypothesis, we shouldn't discount it, but ... also not take it as gospel. It's pretty clear that to get to the bottom of this we either need some leak or enough politicians in Congress who take this seriously, and get people to testify under oath. (Of course it'd be a good start to hold accountable those who lie to Congress, like Keith Alexander and James Clapper.)
  - barbazoo 4y ago
    Was someone able to verify that this was in fact written by him? I remember that being an open question when it got posted initially.
  - blue_pants 4y ago
    It may be interesting to read this[0] OSINT analysis of Hersh's claims. [0] https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1626176420648026113 https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1626176420648026113
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fortuna86 4y ago
Yes, during the cold war. When there were no rules and 2 countries did whatever they could to counter the other. What is your evidence such a system exists today?

pas 4y ago

Two words: evidence where? > Many credible books on that topic to read. Yes, exactly as credible reporter guy explained how the US blow up the pipeline. Many credible substacks!

bilekas 4y ago
Seymour Hersh is the Journalist/Investigative Reporter and he does not mess around. Not just some 'substack'. I suspect some of the larger outlets would not publish it without source information etc and as I mentioned Seymour Hersh is well known for sticking to his word of "Not revealing sources".
- pas 4y ago
  That's appeal to authority. And it's a good hypothesis, we shouldn't discount it, but ... also not take it as gospel. It's pretty clear that to get to the bottom of this we either need some leak or enough politicians in Congress who take this seriously, and get people to testify under oath. (Of course it'd be a good start to hold accountable those who lie to Congress, like Keith Alexander and James Clapper.)
- barbazoo 4y ago
  Was someone able to verify that this was in fact written by him? I remember that being an open question when it got posted initially.
- blue_pants 4y ago
  It may be interesting to read this[0] OSINT analysis of Hersh's claims. [0] https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1626176420648026113 https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1626176420648026113
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fortuna86 4y ago

Yes, during the cold war. When there were no rules and 2 countries did whatever they could to counter the other. What is your evidence such a system exists today?