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Your assumption is incorrect, I don't know how it works is VSCode, but what you described is exactly my flow in Emacs org-mode. I can even annotate my code blo

by aeonik 4y ago

Your assumption is incorrect, I don't know how it works is VSCode, but what you described is exactly my flow in Emacs org-mode. I can even annotate my code blocks to execute on remote machines, or to "tangle" my code blocks together to deploy standalone files my local or remote machines. The meta language in tangle let's me reuse code snippets for machine specific configurations. I can almost replace my DevOps workflows with Emacs Org-mode. It takes practice to use, and the documentation isn't very good though. Too terse for my preferences, but ChatGPT is really good at helping me understand.

bmitc 4y ago
You can display images, including interactive ones, rendered LaTeX and diagrams, and arbitrary HTML/CSS/JavaScript inside "notebooks" in Emacs?
- brudgers 4y ago
  Yes and read email, organize a file system, shell into the file system in Bash (or Lisp)… …basically, “yes” is the most likely answer to “can eMacs…?” (Though I am not sure about the current state of web browsing.)
  - coldtea 4y ago
    I don't think the parent asks "what is available in Emacs in different places" or "what is theorically possible", but whether org mode has feature parity with what he uses, and the answer is not. There might be a way to have plots inside org mode (e.g. org-plot) but you don't have "arbitrary html/js" plots (except as links to other in a browser, and I doubt you get even close to the same level of interactivity. And even what you get regarding plotting is not turn-key that way VSCode Jupiter and Polyglot are.
    - bmitc 4y ago
      Thanks for getting it. Steps to run my F# or Elixir notebooks are: * Install F# or Elixir * Install the Polyglot Notebook extension in VS Code (for F#) or install Livebook (for Elixir) * Run notebook The idea of what Emacs provides is irrelevant to my problems of how to efficiently write blog posts either in or support by notebooks. I gave up the path of Emacs long ago for the exact reasons of this chain. Yes, you can do anything or a collection of things, given enough time. For VS Code and these notebook technologies that I use, I do not spend time fussing about with the notebook technology.
    - aeonik 4y ago
      I see, this makes sense, thank you for helping to clarify. That being said, I feel like this kind of the entire point of emacs. Everything is pieced together, and very little is "out of the box". At least, It's THE main reason I started learning Emacs, I was tired of the lack of interoperability of my different tools and I wanted an ecosystem that lets me piece things together as needed, like the Unix philosophy but with a tighter interactivity loop. It's a double edged sword, in that it takes much more effort to build and maintain, but there's nothing really like it. I still use VSCode and Jetbrains IDEs, but they don't drive my workflow like Emacs.
    - brudgers 4y ago
      Anything that isn’t VS Code isn’t VS Code and won’t work just like VS Code. That means it probably is not worth switching tools when the existing tool is good enough for something else that might be good enough. But not-right-for-OP is not the same as eMacs-can’t.
coldtea 4y ago
>Your assumption is incorrect, I don't know how it works is VSCode, but what you described is exactly my flow in Emacs org-mode. I doubt it. Care to post a GIF/video of a session with interactive html/js and plotting in org.mode?

by aeonik 4y ago

bmitc 4y ago

You can display images, including interactive ones, rendered LaTeX and diagrams, and arbitrary HTML/CSS/JavaScript inside "notebooks" in Emacs?

brudgers 4y ago
Yes and read email, organize a file system, shell into the file system in Bash (or Lisp)… …basically, “yes” is the most likely answer to “can eMacs…?” (Though I am not sure about the current state of web browsing.)
- coldtea 4y ago
  I don't think the parent asks "what is available in Emacs in different places" or "what is theorically possible", but whether org mode has feature parity with what he uses, and the answer is not. There might be a way to have plots inside org mode (e.g. org-plot) but you don't have "arbitrary html/js" plots (except as links to other in a browser, and I doubt you get even close to the same level of interactivity. And even what you get regarding plotting is not turn-key that way VSCode Jupiter and Polyglot are.
  - bmitc 4y ago
    Thanks for getting it. Steps to run my F# or Elixir notebooks are: * Install F# or Elixir * Install the Polyglot Notebook extension in VS Code (for F#) or install Livebook (for Elixir) * Run notebook The idea of what Emacs provides is irrelevant to my problems of how to efficiently write blog posts either in or support by notebooks. I gave up the path of Emacs long ago for the exact reasons of this chain. Yes, you can do anything or a collection of things, given enough time. For VS Code and these notebook technologies that I use, I do not spend time fussing about with the notebook technology.
  - aeonik 4y ago
    I see, this makes sense, thank you for helping to clarify. That being said, I feel like this kind of the entire point of emacs. Everything is pieced together, and very little is "out of the box". At least, It's THE main reason I started learning Emacs, I was tired of the lack of interoperability of my different tools and I wanted an ecosystem that lets me piece things together as needed, like the Unix philosophy but with a tighter interactivity loop. It's a double edged sword, in that it takes much more effort to build and maintain, but there's nothing really like it. I still use VSCode and Jetbrains IDEs, but they don't drive my workflow like Emacs.
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Anything that isn’t VS Code isn’t VS Code and won’t work just like VS Code. That means it probably is not worth switching tools when the existing tool is good enough for something else that might be good enough. But not-right-for-OP is not the same as eMacs-can’t.

coldtea 4y ago

>Your assumption is incorrect, I don't know how it works is VSCode, but what you described is exactly my flow in Emacs org-mode. I doubt it. Care to post a GIF/video of a session with interactive html/js and plotting in org.mode?