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Most people don't want to be labor mobile, they want to be labor secure. Generally you can agree with your employer to waive the notice period. Often people wi

Most people don't want to be labor mobile, they want to be labor secure. Generally you can agree with your employer to waive the notice period. Often people will also take their accumulated vacation days at that time. Some collective labor agreements also specify that employees can take so many days off a month to look for a new job.

londons_explore 4y ago
> Most people don't want to be labor mobile, they want to be labor secure. I suspect that even though most individuals want to be labor secure, most people would actually be better off with more mobility instead. You wouldn't mind being laid off if you were pretty certain you could get a new job with a similar salary within just a few days. The only reason being laid off is so stressful is because there isn't sufficient mobility, and it's likely it will be many weeks or months till you find a new employer. I'd kinda like to see an 'employer of last resort', where the government guarantees to employ anyone anytime. That should at least take away much of the fear of being laid off, even if few people actually use the service.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
  That's essentially what France does (and the U.S I think, to some extent with welfare?), you have a right to the "allocation chômage" which is a monthly payment from the government and your job is to find a new job. But I don't believe in these perfectly efficient systems, like the one you describe, in which as long as we remove friction everyone can do what they want. Humans are not robots, they need emotional and social stability to thrive. A job comes with a location, social bonds, an expertise, habits ... You can't swap one for another and call it good as long as the paycheck stays the same.
- freitzkriesler2 4y ago
  One of the many myriad of problems I saw while living in Europe. Great labor protections! Very few job openings. There's always a flip side to the good things online Europeans like to brag about.
poisonborz 4y ago
This is the right answer. Not everyone is a SWE with endless mobility and 1 week job searches.

londons_explore 4y ago

> Most people don't want to be labor mobile, they want to be labor secure. I suspect that even though most individuals want to be labor secure, most people would actually be better off with more mobility instead. You wouldn't mind being laid off if you were pretty certain you could get a new job with a similar salary within just a few days. The only reason being laid off is so stressful is because there isn't sufficient mobility, and it's likely it will be many weeks or months till you find a new employer. I'd kinda like to see an 'employer of last resort', where the government guarantees to employ anyone anytime. That should at least take away much of the fear of being laid off, even if few people actually use the service.

ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
That's essentially what France does (and the U.S I think, to some extent with welfare?), you have a right to the "allocation chômage" which is a monthly payment from the government and your job is to find a new job. But I don't believe in these perfectly efficient systems, like the one you describe, in which as long as we remove friction everyone can do what they want. Humans are not robots, they need emotional and social stability to thrive. A job comes with a location, social bonds, an expertise, habits ... You can't swap one for another and call it good as long as the paycheck stays the same.
freitzkriesler2 4y ago
One of the many myriad of problems I saw while living in Europe. Great labor protections! Very few job openings. There's always a flip side to the good things online Europeans like to brag about.

poisonborz 4y ago

This is the right answer. Not everyone is a SWE with endless mobility and 1 week job searches.