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https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat...

• throwaway13337 4y ago
  While very long, it doesn't look like that article provides anything but speculation. What would you say is the key point? Where's the meat? I know that it would be hard to get good evidence here but I still think the burden of proof lies on the more extreme claim. Which to me is that a company founded by someone fleeing oppression would work directly with the oppressor. The example of messages appearing as 'read' does not imply to me that telegram is working with them - rather that the her app was compromised by other means. Otherwise, why create such a flaw in your monitoring? Meduza - news organization criminally charged in russia operating in latvia - is mostly accessed in russia via telegram. It's hard but not impossible to imagine that the russian government would allow it to remain uncensored.
  • tapoxi 4y ago
    The agreement with the Russian Government over "Terrorism" cases is not just speculation, but announced by both parties.
    • throwaway13337 4y ago
      That would be damning if I could find a statement by telegram about how they are working with the russian government to deal with 'terrorism'. I'm seeing quoted statements by the russian government in the article that I cannot verify elsewhere but I'm unable to see telegram making a statement from their side of working with the russian government. I'm truly interested in getting to the bottom of this. This wired piece doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in it's trustworthiness but I'm unable to find something with more concrete sources or at least a better reputation.
• fernandotakai 4y ago
  as a counter point, here's telegram's answer to this article https://telegra.ph/Wired-Errors https://telegra.ph/Wired-Errors