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What people don't realize is that extra-judicial "persuasion" is also commonly applied for strategic business interests. I recall a discussion with a someone at

What people don't realize is that extra-judicial "persuasion" is also commonly applied for strategic business interests. I recall a discussion with a someone at an electronics company a while ago where they described recent breaches and leaks of IP to Chinese state companies by unwitting employees pressured by these extra-judicial police.

runnerup 4y ago
nitpick: not sure if those employees would be "unwitting", probably closer to "unwilling" or something along those lines
- prox 4y ago
  Coerced?
BlueTemplar 4y ago
No question that this is a threat, but at this point I also feel compelled to point out that the US(&UK) judiciary has been accused of the same : 1.) https://www.economist.com/business/2019/01/17/how-the-american-takeover-of-a-french-national-champion-became-intertwined-in-a-corruption-investigation https://www.economist.com/business/2019/01/17/how-the-americ... (Notably, some of the most vocal opponents of Macron go as far as to accuse him of treason for personal gain in this case, though their case is IMHO kind of thin.) 2.) https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51277946 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51277946 Tom Enders, his compliance officer John Harrison, DARPA's & silicon valley's Paul Eremenko and others have been accused of (ab)using this probe with the result that Airbus' strategic information (including business one) became openly accessible to the USA, and through them, to their competitor : Boeing. 3.) Not to be forgotten : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32542140 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32542140
- ryaniscool 4y ago
  I'm not seeing the similarities to what the parent comment describes. The people accused of participating of wrongdoing in these articles weren't pressured to participate by threats to their families from their "home" government. They did it for personal gain.

runnerup 4y ago

nitpick: not sure if those employees would be "unwitting", probably closer to "unwilling" or something along those lines

prox 4y ago
Coerced?

BlueTemplar 4y ago

No question that this is a threat, but at this point I also feel compelled to point out that the US(&UK) judiciary has been accused of the same : 1.) https://www.economist.com/business/2019/01/17/how-the-american-takeover-of-a-french-national-champion-became-intertwined-in-a-corruption-investigation https://www.economist.com/business/2019/01/17/how-the-americ... (Notably, some of the most vocal opponents of Macron go as far as to accuse him of treason for personal gain in this case, though their case is IMHO kind of thin.) 2.) https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51277946 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51277946 Tom Enders, his compliance officer John Harrison, DARPA's & silicon valley's Paul Eremenko and others have been accused of (ab)using this probe with the result that Airbus' strategic information (including business one) became openly accessible to the USA, and through them, to their competitor : Boeing. 3.) Not to be forgotten : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32542140 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32542140

ryaniscool 4y ago
I'm not seeing the similarities to what the parent comment describes. The people accused of participating of wrongdoing in these articles weren't pressured to participate by threats to their families from their "home" government. They did it for personal gain.