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Old Chademo is from 2010, back when CCS didn’t even exist. CCS didn’t support higher power until around 2017/18

by labcomputer 4y ago

clouddrover 4y ago
So.. your point is CHAdeMO had a big head start and still lost out to CCS? That's a shame. They probably should have brought CHAdeMO 3.0 forward sooner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaoJi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaoJi Japan and China will probably standardise on CHAdeMO 3.0. Though it would be much better if Japan switched to CCS type 2 combo so all the right-hand drive countries are on the same charging standard.
- fomine3 4y ago
  It's like a format war. Better format won't help to make competitor to adopt rival's format. Europe and US automotive industry adopt CCS, then the war is ended on western world. I'm curious what's going on developing world where Chinese EV is expected to sold well. CCS lacked V2H/V2G support for a long time while CHAdeMO supports.
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- ajross 4y ago
  > So.. your point is CHAdeMO had a big head start and still lost out to CCS? That's a shame. This is low-effort sniping. The upthread point was that at the moment the standardization process was happening, both CHAdeMO and Tesla presented superior technologies to what the committee ended up picking. And CCS is still suffering with those limitations in comparison with Tesla's much trimmer device (CHAdeMO hasn't kept up as well, it's true).
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    The "superior technologies" of CHAdeMO and the Tesla plug didn't deliver the practical outcome of your choice of charger with your choice of vehicle like CCS did and continues to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_WjeH3I8p8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_WjeH3I8p8 It doesn't matter how "superior" you think they are. They didn't solve the business case and were dead on arrival because of that.

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Old Chademo is from 2010, back when CCS didn’t even exist. CCS didn’t support higher power until around 2017/18

by labcomputer 4y ago

Old Chademo is from 2010, back when CCS didn’t even exist. CCS didn’t support higher power until around 2017/18

clouddrover 4y ago
So.. your point is CHAdeMO had a big head start and still lost out to CCS? That's a shame. They probably should have brought CHAdeMO 3.0 forward sooner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaoJi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaoJi Japan and China will probably standardise on CHAdeMO 3.0. Though it would be much better if Japan switched to CCS type 2 combo so all the right-hand drive countries are on the same charging standard.
- fomine3 4y ago
  It's like a format war. Better format won't help to make competitor to adopt rival's format. Europe and US automotive industry adopt CCS, then the war is ended on western world. I'm curious what's going on developing world where Chinese EV is expected to sold well. CCS lacked V2H/V2G support for a long time while CHAdeMO supports.
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- ajross 4y ago
  > So.. your point is CHAdeMO had a big head start and still lost out to CCS? That's a shame. This is low-effort sniping. The upthread point was that at the moment the standardization process was happening, both CHAdeMO and Tesla presented superior technologies to what the committee ended up picking. And CCS is still suffering with those limitations in comparison with Tesla's much trimmer device (CHAdeMO hasn't kept up as well, it's true).
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    The "superior technologies" of CHAdeMO and the Tesla plug didn't deliver the practical outcome of your choice of charger with your choice of vehicle like CCS did and continues to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_WjeH3I8p8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_WjeH3I8p8 It doesn't matter how "superior" you think they are. They didn't solve the business case and were dead on arrival because of that.