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I hope they don't take it down like how Berkeley CS videos were taken down.

diebeforei485 4y ago
Those were taken down because of some complicated lawsuit about use of public funds to make available content that wasn't accessible to people with disabilities. It was too expensive to make the recorded lectures work with tools used by people with disabilities, so the university took down the content instead instead of spending even more resources making it compatible with screen readers, adding captioning, etc. CMU is a private university so this doesn't apply.
- lost_tourist 4y ago
  no good deed goes unpunished
- squokko 4y ago
  That is the most Berkeley thing I've ever heard
  - troupe 4y ago
    Well Berkeley wasn't wanting to take it down, but there are evidently people who like to sue Berkeley who would prefer a world where those videos aren't available to anyone.
- smnrchrds 4y ago
  We have to ask ourselves: too expensive for what? Berkeley has a 7 billion dollar endowment. I am sure they could have found the budget to make the videos compliant. They simply chose not too.
  - diebeforei485 4y ago
    Endowments can't be spent.
    - smnrchrds 4y ago
      Indeed. But the size of endowment, much like market capitalization of a company or GDP of a country, is a very useful metric to judge fiscal capacity.
    - justaj 4y ago
      Isn't this dependent on the the specific endowment policy though?
    - smnrchrds 4y ago
      UC Berkeley's annual budget is 3 billion dollars. I still think they can afford this. https://cfo.berkeley.edu/budget-101 https://cfo.berkeley.edu/budget-101
- dave333 4y ago
  I would think there's a legal way around that - maybe donate the rights to the affected materials to a private charitable trust that is exempt.
  - philonoist 4y ago
    Well, I found an illegal way around that, haha - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768
- shmde 4y ago
  This is the most wtf thing I have heard all day. Basically "me can't have so you can't have." It's like shutting down a public Library just because it doesn't have a ramp for people with wheelchair. Do people really go hmm 10 out of 100 people cannot have it so the other 90 will not have it too. Doesn't make sense.
  - joecool1029 4y ago
    It's also the reason why you can't get most college textbooks as an ebook, because ereaders are deemed not compliant for the blind: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague... I don't understand anyway since screenreaders are a thing on computers and smartphones and you can load an ebook into either. Meanwhile a paper book either needs a very expensive braille copy or some kind of complicated electronic shit to read the book for you. My guess is the publishers knew ebook piracy is a thing and bribed some officials to use the ADA line.
- albert_e 4y ago
  Off topic a sentence with "instead instead" ... sounds both right and wrong at the same time :)
- kqr2 4y ago
  By the same token, would the course material be available under California's Public Records Act which is essentially a state version of the Freedom of Information Act? Since the course material was created by public funds, shouldn't a state resident be able to request access to it?
  - modeless 4y ago
    This is an awesome idea. They should record the videos, not post them, have someone file a public records act request for them, and then that person can post them.
- abdnafees 4y ago
  Oh that's why I can't find those lectures. Those saved me in my undergrad. Amazing content from amazing teachers.
  - philonoist 4y ago
    You can suggest them to look into this - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768
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rg111 4y ago
You can't find them anywhere? Not even Archive.org? Please tell me you can find them somewhere.
- philonoist 4y ago
  Many from Reddit resonated with what you feel. So let me help you with the location - Jackett or magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5E84BE34F69B1A313F6DCB51667EDF238D5D4412&dn=UC+Berkeley+Computer+Science+Courses+%28Full+Collection%29%09&tr=https%3A%2F%2Facademictorrents.com%2Fannounce.php&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fcoppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to%3A1337%2Fannounce
  - rg111 4y ago
    It works! Thank you so very much!
- millzlane 4y ago
  https://archive.org/details/academictorrents_5e84be34f69b1a313f6dcb51667edf238d5d4412 https://archive.org/details/academictorrents_5e84be34f69b1a3...

Those were taken down because of some complicated lawsuit about use of public funds to make available content that wasn't accessible to people with disabilities. It was too expensive to make the recorded lectures work with tools used by people with disabilities, so the university took down the content instead instead of spending even more resources making it compatible with screen readers, adding captioning, etc. CMU is a private university so this doesn't apply.

lost_tourist 4y ago
no good deed goes unpunished
squokko 4y ago
That is the most Berkeley thing I've ever heard
- troupe 4y ago
  Well Berkeley wasn't wanting to take it down, but there are evidently people who like to sue Berkeley who would prefer a world where those videos aren't available to anyone.
smnrchrds 4y ago
We have to ask ourselves: too expensive for what? Berkeley has a 7 billion dollar endowment. I am sure they could have found the budget to make the videos compliant. They simply chose not too.
- diebeforei485 4y ago
  Endowments can't be spent.
  - smnrchrds 4y ago
    Indeed. But the size of endowment, much like market capitalization of a company or GDP of a country, is a very useful metric to judge fiscal capacity.
  - justaj 4y ago
    Isn't this dependent on the the specific endowment policy though?
  - smnrchrds 4y ago
    UC Berkeley's annual budget is 3 billion dollars. I still think they can afford this. https://cfo.berkeley.edu/budget-101 https://cfo.berkeley.edu/budget-101
dave333 4y ago
I would think there's a legal way around that - maybe donate the rights to the affected materials to a private charitable trust that is exempt.
- philonoist 4y ago
  Well, I found an illegal way around that, haha - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768
shmde 4y ago
This is the most wtf thing I have heard all day. Basically "me can't have so you can't have." It's like shutting down a public Library just because it doesn't have a ramp for people with wheelchair. Do people really go hmm 10 out of 100 people cannot have it so the other 90 will not have it too. Doesn't make sense.
- joecool1029 4y ago
  It's also the reason why you can't get most college textbooks as an ebook, because ereaders are deemed not compliant for the blind: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague... I don't understand anyway since screenreaders are a thing on computers and smartphones and you can load an ebook into either. Meanwhile a paper book either needs a very expensive braille copy or some kind of complicated electronic shit to read the book for you. My guess is the publishers knew ebook piracy is a thing and bribed some officials to use the ADA line.
albert_e 4y ago
Off topic a sentence with "instead instead" ... sounds both right and wrong at the same time :)
kqr2 4y ago
By the same token, would the course material be available under California's Public Records Act which is essentially a state version of the Freedom of Information Act? Since the course material was created by public funds, shouldn't a state resident be able to request access to it?
- modeless 4y ago
  This is an awesome idea. They should record the videos, not post them, have someone file a public records act request for them, and then that person can post them.
abdnafees 4y ago
Oh that's why I can't find those lectures. Those saved me in my undergrad. Amazing content from amazing teachers.
- philonoist 4y ago
  You can suggest them to look into this - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34818768

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rg111 4y ago

You can't find them anywhere? Not even Archive.org? Please tell me you can find them somewhere.

philonoist 4y ago
Many from Reddit resonated with what you feel. So let me help you with the location - Jackett or magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5E84BE34F69B1A313F6DCB51667EDF238D5D4412&dn=UC+Berkeley+Computer+Science+Courses+%28Full+Collection%29%09&tr=https%3A%2F%2Facademictorrents.com%2Fannounce.php&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fcoppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to%3A1337%2Fannounce
- rg111 4y ago
  It works! Thank you so very much!
millzlane 4y ago
https://archive.org/details/academictorrents_5e84be34f69b1a313f6dcb51667edf238d5d4412 https://archive.org/details/academictorrents_5e84be34f69b1a3...