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There was one option on the ballot, I think that was more the problem. Having choice and not having someone with a gun escort you to the ballot box are bigger r

There was one option on the ballot, I think that was more the problem. Having choice and not having someone with a gun escort you to the ballot box are bigger requirements. If there were no repercussions, voting could totally be open, don't you think?

WalterBright 4y ago
Do you really want the thug in power to know you didn't vote for him?
- barbazoo 4y ago
  That's exactly my point, it's a problem because there is a "thug in power". That's the problem, not open voting.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    Even the nicest people become thugs when in power. Power corrupts.
    - dette 4y ago
      Most, perhaps yes! But not always. You seem to often have so binary thoughts xD Do you work with programming or something?
    - barbazoo 4y ago
      I don't know, in my experience most governments aren't run by "thugs" but YMMV.
      - WalterBright 4y ago
        The only reason for open ballots is to hold individuals "accountable" for their votes.
suddenclarity 4y ago
There will always be repercussions. Sweden have been doing public voting for decades by forcing you to pick the ballot out in the open, before going into a booth and putting the public ballot into an envelope. Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter. EU and election authorities have demanded change to make it private but the previously ruling party didn't want to. Now we got a new government a few months ago and this was one of their first tasks, so it might be changed in time for the election in 2026.
- barbazoo 4y ago
  > There will always be repercussions. > Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter. "Repercussions" from family or neighbours, sure, but not from whoever has the monopoly on violence. I haven't heard of the Swedish government going after people that "voted wrong".

WalterBright 4y ago

Do you really want the thug in power to know you didn't vote for him?

barbazoo 4y ago
That's exactly my point, it's a problem because there is a "thug in power". That's the problem, not open voting.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  Even the nicest people become thugs when in power. Power corrupts.
  - dette 4y ago
    Most, perhaps yes! But not always. You seem to often have so binary thoughts xD Do you work with programming or something?
  - barbazoo 4y ago
    I don't know, in my experience most governments aren't run by "thugs" but YMMV.
    - WalterBright 4y ago
      The only reason for open ballots is to hold individuals "accountable" for their votes.

suddenclarity 4y ago

There will always be repercussions. Sweden have been doing public voting for decades by forcing you to pick the ballot out in the open, before going into a booth and putting the public ballot into an envelope. Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter. EU and election authorities have demanded change to make it private but the previously ruling party didn't want to. Now we got a new government a few months ago and this was one of their first tasks, so it might be changed in time for the election in 2026.

barbazoo 4y ago
> There will always be repercussions. > Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter. "Repercussions" from family or neighbours, sure, but not from whoever has the monopoly on violence. I haven't heard of the Swedish government going after people that "voted wrong".