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Lawsuit alleges Epstein victims were paid from JPMorgan accounts
- longitudinal93 4y agohttps://archive.is/DG8aQ https://archive.is/DG8aQ
- meghan_rain 4y agoyesterday's conspiracy theory is today's 10k https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/
- durnygbur 4y ago[flagged]
- watwut 4y agoI like how you jumped from "Jeffrey Epstein victims" to whores. In particular when referencing teenagers.
- durnygbur 4y agoSome of them were recruiters so not victims at all. The recruitment was done by deception and lying. 18-19 years old is an adult and still a teenager. The urge to show up back home was massive, many women were ready to take life shortcuts, ready for many sacrifices. Arrangements like this are not 1-3 masterminds and then remaining being exclusively victims, cash in solid currency fills the holes in conscience very well.
- watwut 4y ago> Some of them were recruiters so not victims at all. The recruitment was done by deception and lying. These would be pimps, not whores.
- kichimi 4y agoI think you should just ignore the language and see what he's trying to say. I can definitely see that he's just speaking with the words he knows. 'Whores' = 'Sex Workers', and suddenly it sounds a bit nicer. We have certain standards of language that may be inaccessible to someone who is not a native speaker and does not live in a native english speaking country, it shouldn't take away from the meaning of what people who use inappropriate words are trying to say. Also pimps don't recruit, they manage. This is human trafficking.
- durnygbur 4y agoSomehow from the tone of both of you I feel you both assume that a woman around 20 can be only a victim and never a pimp or a recruiter.
- watwut 4y agoNo, we just reacting to you conflating victims, whores, pimps, recruiters and for some reason primadonnas into one big group. Under article specifically about Epstein victims and not about Epstein co-defendants. Also, the "woman around 20" is very new limitation since your original comment included teenagers. Plus, Epstein victims did included underaged girls.
- kichimi 4y agoNo? Im saying engage him on the merit of his argument and not his terrible choice of words.
- durnygbur 4y agoa whore, a pimp, a victim, sex worker, primadonna ... I believe an adequate investigation is ongoing and we will know who's who, right?
- watwut 4y agoThe article is specifically about where the victims were paid from. While whore and sex worker is the same thing with different judgement slapped onto it, recruiter, victim, pimp and primadonna have massively different meanings.
- grugagag 4y agoI know plenty of eastern europeans from that timeframe who made careers in various areas without resorting to demeaning work. I assume you’re generalizing to justify your own outcome.
- durnygbur 4y agoIf by careers you mean simply making a living... there are very few truly success stories. If your friends were successful in the privatization during the 90s, or in public sector, or fossil fuel related... that's why the rest of the society had to "whore" themselves abroad. Let me guess what they do at most - outsourcing for German of American corporations, maybe some software for gambling?
- grugagag 4y ago‘Whore themselves’ as in getting jobs abroad? If that’s what you mean then I stand by my comment, plenty of capable people had success in the sense of achieving a more or less decent lifestyle. Some of them got rich too but those are the outliers and not who I had in mind.
- durnygbur 4y agoas in "demeaning work"
- sokoloff 4y agoI wonder what the crossover between “it’s terrible that crypto and cannabis businesses don’t have access to banking” and “it’s terrible that this bank continued to do business with Epstein” is.
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- VagueMag 4y agoThen again a solid majority of those businesses are not also involved in sex trafficking of children.
- PM_me_your_math 4y ago[flagged]
- giraffe_lady 4y agoIf they were all wearing nikes because they were a basketball team that nike had endorsed, despite knowing their history of assaulting teenagers, you'd have a good case and a reasonable parallel to the one we're discussing.
- LatteLazy 4y agoLawsuit alleges Epstein victims were paid with notes issues by the US treasury...
- pksebben 4y ago> He died by suicide in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal charge We don't know this, and we never will. There wasn't a thorough investigation despite the overwhelmingly suspicious circumstances under which it happened.