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Some Chromebooks too. (edit: maybe not "desktop" though)

by luuurker 4y ago

Grazester 4y ago
Most Chromebook run x86 processors. You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  > Most Chromebook run x86 processors. Objectively true. > You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't Eh, that's less true; I own 2 ARM Chromebooks, because I wanted some non-x86 in my life, and neither was hard to find, it just took me actually looking for it.
- toast0 4y ago
  > You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't Search Chromebook on bestbuy, exclude out of stock and sort by price, and you'll see a mix of arm and x86.
- opan 4y ago
  The Samsung Chromebook Plus came out years ago and is ARM. There's also the ASUS C201 which is ARM and has Libreboot support.
midoridensha 4y ago
Is a Chromebook a "desktop", or "mobility"? I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC. Honestly, I think the research firm's divisions are crap. WTF is "mobility" anyway? Why would this not include laptops?
- danans 4y ago
  > I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC. A Chromebox is a desktop PC. And ChromeOS devices can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM. What's not desktop about that?
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    Smartphones can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM too, but that doesn't make them desktop PCs.
    - danans 4y ago
      Ok. It sits on a desktop, has an external monitor and keyboard and mouse, and let's you run general purpose computing tasks, like compiling a C++ program. You can even plug in a USB printer and scanner. You can get them with 16G of RAM and i7 CPUs. You can put them in dev mode, wipe the OS, and install any Linux distro of your liking. Is that a desktop computer? Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively?
      - cvuls 4y ago
        Phones can do most of the things you listed. So a "desktop PC" isn't about its feature set or where you might put it, instead it is a form factor.
        sangnoir 4y ago
        NUCs, Mac Studios and Chromeboxes all have the same form factor. I believe there are All-in-one desktop Chromeboxes as well. The exclusion of desktops running ChromeOS from the desktop category is weird - especially considering they are capable of running Debian Bullseye VMs out of the box (x64 or ARM)
      - midoridensha 4y ago
        >Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively? My point is that the Chromebook is a mobile device: it's tiny and easy to carry around. So why is it not in the "mobility" category? And for that matter, why is every laptop computer not in this category? When did "mobile" somehow become equal to "something you can carry in one hand while also operating it"? The entire point of laptops was that they're mobile. These days, not that many people use "desktop PCs", outside of corporate offices, they use "mobile devices" (i.e. laptops). And where do tablets fall? You can prop them up on a desk and attach a keyboard, and they act just like a laptop (you can also connect external screens etc.). As I said before, their categories are stupid.

Some Chromebooks too. (edit: maybe not "desktop" though)

Grazester 4y ago

Most Chromebook run x86 processors. You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> Most Chromebook run x86 processors. Objectively true. > You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't Eh, that's less true; I own 2 ARM Chromebooks, because I wanted some non-x86 in my life, and neither was hard to find, it just took me actually looking for it.
toast0 4y ago
> You would be hard pressed to find one that didn't Search Chromebook on bestbuy, exclude out of stock and sort by price, and you'll see a mix of arm and x86.
opan 4y ago
The Samsung Chromebook Plus came out years ago and is ARM. There's also the ASUS C201 which is ARM and has Libreboot support.

midoridensha 4y ago

Is a Chromebook a "desktop", or "mobility"? I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC. Honestly, I think the research firm's divisions are crap. WTF is "mobility" anyway? Why would this not include laptops?

danans 4y ago
> I have a hard time thinking of a Chromebook as a "desktop" PC. A Chromebox is a desktop PC. And ChromeOS devices can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM. What's not desktop about that?
- midoridensha 4y ago
  Smartphones can run a full Debian Linux distro in a VM too, but that doesn't make them desktop PCs.
  - danans 4y ago
    Ok. It sits on a desktop, has an external monitor and keyboard and mouse, and let's you run general purpose computing tasks, like compiling a C++ program. You can even plug in a USB printer and scanner. You can get them with 16G of RAM and i7 CPUs. You can put them in dev mode, wipe the OS, and install any Linux distro of your liking. Is that a desktop computer? Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively?
    - cvuls 4y ago
      Phones can do most of the things you listed. So a "desktop PC" isn't about its feature set or where you might put it, instead it is a form factor.
      - sangnoir 4y ago
        NUCs, Mac Studios and Chromeboxes all have the same form factor. I believe there are All-in-one desktop Chromeboxes as well. The exclusion of desktops running ChromeOS from the desktop category is weird - especially considering they are capable of running Debian Bullseye VMs out of the box (x64 or ARM)
    - midoridensha 4y ago
      >Or is the definition of desktop computer that it can, say, run Adobe Photoshop natively? My point is that the Chromebook is a mobile device: it's tiny and easy to carry around. So why is it not in the "mobility" category? And for that matter, why is every laptop computer not in this category? When did "mobile" somehow become equal to "something you can carry in one hand while also operating it"? The entire point of laptops was that they're mobile. These days, not that many people use "desktop PCs", outside of corporate offices, they use "mobile devices" (i.e. laptops). And where do tablets fall? You can prop them up on a desk and attach a keyboard, and they act just like a laptop (you can also connect external screens etc.). As I said before, their categories are stupid.