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Anyone know the gross outward migration? That is, not the net (outflux - influx), but the number of Californians who have moved to different states in the past

by floxy 4y ago

Anyone know the gross outward migration? That is, not the net (outflux - influx), but the number of Californians who have moved to different states in the past 5 years or so.

dredmorbius 4y ago
That's ... not immediately clear. I'll note a number of things which annoy me about this article: - It fails to cite / reference / link sources, though there's the line "The population decrease was second only to New York, which lost about 15,000 more people than California, census data show." - This is effectively a narrativisation of what should be a data table or chart (or several). For whatever reasons, mass-media news organisations, even reasonably robust ones such as the LA Times, are exceedingly averse to presenting charts or tables. - We do get three links ... all to prior LA Times stories. At least one of those actually does link to US Census sources. It's by different reporters. On that last, what we'd be looking for specifically are: - CA population in 2020 & 2022. - Gross and net in- and out-migration for the state. - Natural population growth including gross births and deaths. - A table showing net growth/decline and a percentage basis for, say, the 5 greatest growths / declines over 2020-2022. Otherwise, there's a thousand words of text not only communicating little but doing so quite poorly. I suspect the Census data may be "Migration Flows Data Available for Counties, Metropolitan Statistical Areas and Minor Civil Divisions", released 26 January 2023, though that's also less than clear, and the data here appear to be for 2016-2020, not through 2022. <https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/acs-migration-flows.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/acs-migr...> The issues here may well be editorial policy rather than failings of this specific reporter. Regardless, they're a disservice to news readers. Those issues would accrue to B.J. Terune, Fast Break Desk associate editor, or executive editor Kevin Merida.

by floxy 4y ago

Anyone know the gross outward migration? That is, not the net (outflux - influx), but the number of Californians who have moved to different states in the past 5 years or so.

dredmorbius 4y ago

That's ... not immediately clear. I'll note a number of things which annoy me about this article: - It fails to cite / reference / link sources, though there's the line "The population decrease was second only to New York, which lost about 15,000 more people than California, census data show." - This is effectively a narrativisation of what should be a data table or chart (or several). For whatever reasons, mass-media news organisations, even reasonably robust ones such as the LA Times, are exceedingly averse to presenting charts or tables. - We do get three links ... all to prior LA Times stories. At least one of those actually does link to US Census sources. It's by different reporters. On that last, what we'd be looking for specifically are: - CA population in 2020 & 2022. - Gross and net in- and out-migration for the state. - Natural population growth including gross births and deaths. - A table showing net growth/decline and a percentage basis for, say, the 5 greatest growths / declines over 2020-2022. Otherwise, there's a thousand words of text not only communicating little but doing so quite poorly. I suspect the Census data may be "Migration Flows Data Available for Counties, Metropolitan Statistical Areas and Minor Civil Divisions", released 26 January 2023, though that's also less than clear, and the data here appear to be for 2016-2020, not through 2022. <https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/acs-migration-flows.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/acs-migr...> The issues here may well be editorial policy rather than failings of this specific reporter. Regardless, they're a disservice to news readers. Those issues would accrue to B.J. Terune, Fast Break Desk associate editor, or executive editor Kevin Merida.