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To be honest, I am genuinely surprised that "Shit NLMs Said This One Time Zomg!" articles continue to be highly upvoted here. This is junk reporting at its fine

To be honest, I am genuinely surprised that "Shit NLMs Said This One Time Zomg!" articles continue to be highly upvoted here. This is junk reporting at its finest.

GauntletWizard 4y ago
It's hilarious snapshots of an overrated technology. It's human interest pieces and it will take a few dozens more before we all stop laughing.
- thefurdrake 4y ago
  Hey man, that's fair! If you're still getting use out of the content, I guess that explains why it's still getting upvoted. Maybe I'm jaded and cynical and just got immediately tired of zero new information being presented.
  - callahad 4y ago
    I find it really fascinating to see how the tenor of reporting on Bing has shifted in the past week. In seven days, we've gone from "Microsoft made Google dance" to "Bing is an emotionally manipulative liar." That's a tremendous shift! The initial reporting had healthy skepticism, but was mostly concerned with Bing engendering unwarranted confidence. Still, it was coming from a place that was willing to believe in chatbots as a better search paradigm. I think we're starting to see cracks in that narrative.
- gowld 4y ago
  artificial human interest!
smoldesu 4y ago
I'm surprised you're being downvoted for it. These articles and Twitter threads are a complete waste of time; worse yet, they're misleading and funnel people into the 'futurism' narrative rather than the 'technically realistic' one. My disappointment in this community never ends. Consequently, my next project will be building the world's brightest lightbulb in an attempt to get TikTok foot traffic to my personal brand, because apparently that's what people care about now.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  > My disappointment in this community never ends. I too would never want to join a club that would have me.
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- netsharc 4y ago
  For you two to dismiss these stories as useless is a bit myopic, IMO. Sydney Bing is now a virtual assistant that sometimes gives you the wrong answer, and it's been configured to be threatening and gaslighting when someone says it's wrong. How is this helpful for the tech industry or humanity in general. Looking forward to the plug being pulled within a few days. Not that the tech isn't impressive or useful in general, but my guess is someone messed up with the configuration yet again.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    It's a cross between Clippy and a potential ax murderer :) In a way it is hilarious that they would risk their corporate image in such a careless way.
  - bdowling 4y ago
    > … it's been configured to be threatening and gaslighting when someone says it's wrong. So, about the same as your average human in the comments section. If it’s been trained on human conversations, then this shouldn’t be surprising.
  - thefurdrake 4y ago
    I guess my main issue with it all is that I feel like the conclusion that it's a trainwreck is sort of foregone in my mind. It's bad. The potential for great good is intense, but these models aren't MVP yet. They're just not. I do find it concerning that they would output abusive responses when queried. That's not acceptable. It's also not new. We've known they misbehave in any number of other socially-unacceptable ways, and I just don't consider "well now it's saying $adjective things" % {manipulative, untrue, racist, ...} to be an exciting permutation. I could just be a jaded bastard, though. Normally I'd be excited to see Microsoft fail, but at this point it just makes me disappointed.
bombcar 4y ago
It’s the backlash from the “GPT has made every coder redundant” howling from awhile back.
vlunkr 4y ago
I’m surprised that the title on HN is more clickbait than the original.

To be honest, I am genuinely surprised that "Shit NLMs Said This One Time Zomg!" articles continue to be highly upvoted here. This is junk reporting at its finest.

GauntletWizard 4y ago

It's hilarious snapshots of an overrated technology. It's human interest pieces and it will take a few dozens more before we all stop laughing.

thefurdrake 4y ago
Hey man, that's fair! If you're still getting use out of the content, I guess that explains why it's still getting upvoted. Maybe I'm jaded and cynical and just got immediately tired of zero new information being presented.
- callahad 4y ago
  I find it really fascinating to see how the tenor of reporting on Bing has shifted in the past week. In seven days, we've gone from "Microsoft made Google dance" to "Bing is an emotionally manipulative liar." That's a tremendous shift! The initial reporting had healthy skepticism, but was mostly concerned with Bing engendering unwarranted confidence. Still, it was coming from a place that was willing to believe in chatbots as a better search paradigm. I think we're starting to see cracks in that narrative.
gowld 4y ago
artificial human interest!

smoldesu 4y ago

I'm surprised you're being downvoted for it. These articles and Twitter threads are a complete waste of time; worse yet, they're misleading and funnel people into the 'futurism' narrative rather than the 'technically realistic' one. My disappointment in this community never ends. Consequently, my next project will be building the world's brightest lightbulb in an attempt to get TikTok foot traffic to my personal brand, because apparently that's what people care about now.

jacquesm 4y ago
> My disappointment in this community never ends. I too would never want to join a club that would have me.
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netsharc 4y ago
For you two to dismiss these stories as useless is a bit myopic, IMO. Sydney Bing is now a virtual assistant that sometimes gives you the wrong answer, and it's been configured to be threatening and gaslighting when someone says it's wrong. How is this helpful for the tech industry or humanity in general. Looking forward to the plug being pulled within a few days. Not that the tech isn't impressive or useful in general, but my guess is someone messed up with the configuration yet again.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  It's a cross between Clippy and a potential ax murderer :) In a way it is hilarious that they would risk their corporate image in such a careless way.
- bdowling 4y ago
  > … it's been configured to be threatening and gaslighting when someone says it's wrong. So, about the same as your average human in the comments section. If it’s been trained on human conversations, then this shouldn’t be surprising.
- thefurdrake 4y ago
  I guess my main issue with it all is that I feel like the conclusion that it's a trainwreck is sort of foregone in my mind. It's bad. The potential for great good is intense, but these models aren't MVP yet. They're just not. I do find it concerning that they would output abusive responses when queried. That's not acceptable. It's also not new. We've known they misbehave in any number of other socially-unacceptable ways, and I just don't consider "well now it's saying $adjective things" % {manipulative, untrue, racist, ...} to be an exciting permutation. I could just be a jaded bastard, though. Normally I'd be excited to see Microsoft fail, but at this point it just makes me disappointed.

bombcar 4y ago

It’s the backlash from the “GPT has made every coder redundant” howling from awhile back.

vlunkr 4y ago

I’m surprised that the title on HN is more clickbait than the original.