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Have you looked recently? I've been tracking DDR5 motherboard (I think the perf is worth it), MicroATX (don't need fullsize), I don't need blinking lights, wat
by sliken 4y ago
Have you looked recently?
I've been tracking DDR5 motherboard (I think the perf is worth it), MicroATX (don't need fullsize), I don't need blinking lights, watercooling systems, wifi, or exotic sound systems, so I go for relatively barebones motherboards. I do want something small, quiet, 2.5G ethernet, and has dual m.2 slots.
On Newegg I found an Intel ASRock Riptide for $159 [0].
On Newegg I found an AMD ASRock Riptide for $169 [1].
I'll happily take the AMD and end up with a quieter and cooler system for the $10.00 premium. Debating between a 7700 (non-x), 7700X3D, or 7900 (non-x). Hopefully it lasts as long as my current (2015) desktop.
Do you consider a $10 premium "extortionately priced"?
[0] https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162061 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162061
[1] https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162083 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162083
- unxdfa 4y agoUK here. Based on my needs, an Asus Prime H610 board that'll take a 13700K is £85. The cheapest AM5 board is £175. (I'm checking one vendor here who I know has a decent returns policy when your system integration goes to hell, another common AMD problem from much experience!)
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- sliken 4y agoAh, wasn't looking that low. That gets you half the memory channels, half the memory bandwidth, half the PCIe, and 40% of the ethernet bandwidth. They go for $100-$110 here, doesn't seem worth saving $50, at least if you plan to keep the system for 5-10 years. BTW, AM5 added the ability to upgrade BIOS without a CPU. So no more nightmares of having to beg a CPU, borrow a CPU from AMD, or RMA to get a compatible CPU<->BIOS setup.
- unxdfa 4y agoYeah if I throw a B660 in there the price is closer. I would probably do that. Good to hear that about the CPU issue. I found that one out the hard way and had to scoot around to a friend's house and borrow his CPU for a few minutes. I bought MSI board after that as they had that built in anyway. AMD scare me on the reliability front. The 3700X and B450 combo I had before was a dick. It would come up 50% of the times with the fans cranking and have to be powered down and back up again a couple of times for it to boot. My Intel machines never did anything like that for the last 25 years or so but the last Athlon XP I had did the same damn thing.
- sliken 4y agoHeh, I've been tracking desktops for quite some time, not noticed any significant reliability differences between AMD and Intel. My current desktop is a 2015 Xeon e3-1230 which was CHEAPER then the similar i7, but allowed ECC. I do like that the AMD motherboards allow ECC, it's a bit of a mess, but better then nothing. AMD doesn't guarantee/certify it until you upgrade to the Epyc. So you end up digging through motherboard docs, certification lists, and forums. My previous desktop was some early amd64, had no reliability problems with it. Before that I think it might have been an Celeron 300A that was overclocked to 450 MHz, same silicon as their non-celeron 450 MHz CPU, so overclocking was very common then. So far I've been switching between AMD and Intel every gen, and likely on my Xeon replacement.
- goosedragons 4y agoAre you consistently buying bargain basement boards? I have a 3700X + X570 and I've never had the fans cranking and it fail to boot.
- unxdfa 4y agoAll of them are bargain basement. Some just have shiny things stuck to them and fancy lights. I tend to go for Asus Prime or MSI Pro boards these days.
- goosedragons 4y agoNo, some of them have better components too. It's not just shiny things and fancy lights.
- epolanski 4y agoSure, but AM5 is a platform you'll still have CPUs to upgrade few gen from now, while Intel keeps the same socket for no more than 2 generations of CPUs.