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While I agree this level of surveillance is worrying since it's probably also being applied to normal people.... SBF has been charged and has been awaiting tria

by munk-a 4y ago

While I agree this level of surveillance is worrying since it's probably also being applied to normal people.... SBF has been charged and has been awaiting trial domestically since Dec 30, 2022. They are, from a spectator[1] point of view, quite clearly guilty of a lot of shady stuff and it would honestly be pretty bonkers if they had access to private communication for non-privileged conversations at this point. 1. Edited as per comment below.

pwillia7 4y ago
> peanut gallery I didn't know this until recently -- https://www.rwjbh.org/why-rwjbarnabas-health-/ending-racism/say-this-not-that/ https://www.rwjbh.org/why-rwjbarnabas-health-/ending-racism/...
- munk-a 4y ago
  I was completely unaware as well - edited.
  - tristor 4y ago
    The article the other poster linked is making a category error, an unfortunately common one, of confusing something which has classist origins or connotations with being racist. The term "peanut gallery" originated from vaudeville theater, and comes from the fact that unruly viewers who were not happy with the performance would throw their concessions at the performers, mostly roasted peanuts as these were the cheapest concessions. The attendees of early vaudeville were primarily immigrants, who would now be considered white, but were not at the time (scottish, irish, italian, and german immigrants). There's nothing particularly racist about the term, never has been, and still isn't as it's used in modern parlance. Whether or not it's acceptable to use phrases with classist or class-based origins in your speech and writing is an exercise I leave up to you.
    - pwillia7 4y ago
      psh -- pleb. :P I did share a bad article I didn't read. I will do some more research on peanut gallery specifically. In either case, I probably still won't use it since it has this connotation to some people.
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- spiralx 4y ago
  That page also claims that "picnic" has a racist origin based on lynching, despite being derived from a French word from the 1690s: https://www.etymonline.com/word/picnic https://www.etymonline.com/word/picnic Their entries on "long time no see" and "no can do" seem pretty spurious as well, which undermines the whole page's validity. It's a shame TBH, those are really strange unforced errors to have included.
  - pwillia7 4y ago
    Oops -- I did the classic google, copy/paste, no read. Looks like I picked a bad source. Sorry!
- emmelaich 4y ago
  That list is a bit absurd. Very USA-centric. And completely wrong in the case of picnic (pique-nique)
danjoredd 4y ago
I assume that they are paying special attention to his internet connection considering the extent of his fraud. While a VPN can hide your IP, your ISP can still tell when a connection is using a VPN so if the courts allow law enforcement to monitor his connection then they would know. Now, if SBF connected through a McDonalds wifi somewhere and they somehow found out it was him using a VPN, that would be concerning because there is no way they should know that its his laptop unless they knew he was on his way there ahead of time and somehow got permission to monitor their public wifi. That feels very unlikely
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by munk-a 4y ago

pwillia7 4y ago

> peanut gallery I didn't know this until recently -- https://www.rwjbh.org/why-rwjbarnabas-health-/ending-racism/say-this-not-that/ https://www.rwjbh.org/why-rwjbarnabas-health-/ending-racism/...

munk-a 4y ago
I was completely unaware as well - edited.
- tristor 4y ago
  The article the other poster linked is making a category error, an unfortunately common one, of confusing something which has classist origins or connotations with being racist. The term "peanut gallery" originated from vaudeville theater, and comes from the fact that unruly viewers who were not happy with the performance would throw their concessions at the performers, mostly roasted peanuts as these were the cheapest concessions. The attendees of early vaudeville were primarily immigrants, who would now be considered white, but were not at the time (scottish, irish, italian, and german immigrants). There's nothing particularly racist about the term, never has been, and still isn't as it's used in modern parlance. Whether or not it's acceptable to use phrases with classist or class-based origins in your speech and writing is an exercise I leave up to you.
  - pwillia7 4y ago
    psh -- pleb. :P I did share a bad article I didn't read. I will do some more research on peanut gallery specifically. In either case, I probably still won't use it since it has this connotation to some people.
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spiralx 4y ago
That page also claims that "picnic" has a racist origin based on lynching, despite being derived from a French word from the 1690s: https://www.etymonline.com/word/picnic https://www.etymonline.com/word/picnic Their entries on "long time no see" and "no can do" seem pretty spurious as well, which undermines the whole page's validity. It's a shame TBH, those are really strange unforced errors to have included.
- pwillia7 4y ago
  Oops -- I did the classic google, copy/paste, no read. Looks like I picked a bad source. Sorry!
emmelaich 4y ago
That list is a bit absurd. Very USA-centric. And completely wrong in the case of picnic (pique-nique)

danjoredd 4y ago

I assume that they are paying special attention to his internet connection considering the extent of his fraud. While a VPN can hide your IP, your ISP can still tell when a connection is using a VPN so if the courts allow law enforcement to monitor his connection then they would know. Now, if SBF connected through a McDonalds wifi somewhere and they somehow found out it was him using a VPN, that would be concerning because there is no way they should know that its his laptop unless they knew he was on his way there ahead of time and somehow got permission to monitor their public wifi. That feels very unlikely

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