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“The Hindus are bullies” is too broad of a generalization.
by oa335 4y ago
“The Hindus are bullies” is too broad of a generalization.
- simonh 4y agoFair enough, they knew that the minorities would be bullied by Hindus.
- trompetenaccoun 4y agoSorry but that's still an extremely simplistic take, if not to say ignorant. The poor bullied minorities™ went on to genocide Bangladeshis in East Pakistan for wanting independence and raped hundreds of thousands of Bangladeshi women, only a few years after Pakistan itself had seceded. I know many Westerners love a good minority story but Islamists aren't that.
- oa335 4y agoLol now you are doing the same type of generalization but for the other side, sarcastically labeling Muslims in Pakistan as “poor bullies minorities” and “Islamists”. The point isn’t that one side is inherently better the other, the point is that people feared minorities wouldn’t fare well in a United India due to longstanding communal issues. Bangladesh war for independence is just supporting that point, as is RSS/Hindutva, etc.
- chimeracoder 4y ago> The point isn’t that one side is inherently better the other, the point is that people feared minorities wouldn’t fare well in a United India due to longstanding communal issues. Bangladesh war for independence is just supporting that point, as is RSS/Hindutva, etc. This is nonsensical. The Liberation War is absolutely not an example of how "minorities won't fare well". For starters, the group targeted by the genocide was not an ethnic minority: they constituted the majority of the population of Pakistan! If anything, the Liberation War is a story of people coming together across ethnic and religious divides in order to stop a genocide - literally the antithesis of "communal divides".
- oa335 4y agoHow would you characterize the genocide in East Pakistan, if not driven by communal divides?
- chimeracoder 4y ago> The poor bullied minorities™ went on to genocide Bangladeshis in East Pakistan for wanting independence and raped hundreds of thousands of Bangladeshi women, only a few years after Pakistan itself had seceded. A correction: they committed genocide against Bengalis in East Pakistan. Bangladesh did not exist yet, so "Bangladeshi" is an anachronism here. Also, an extremely disproportionate number of Bengalis targeted in the killings were actually Hindu[0]. The place that is now Bangladesh used to have a much larger Hindu Bengali population than it does today, but many were killed during the genocide, and many of the survivors fled to India or other countries (either then or in the following years). [0] Contemporary accounts place Hindus as the outright majority of victims, despite Hindus being a minority among Bengalis within East Pakistan. There's plenty of evidence that Hindus were specifically targeted by the military, although it would not be correct to say that it was a genocide [solely] against Bengali Hindus, because Bengalis at large were targeted, and the primary motivation was a suppression of Bengali national identity.
- mtalantikite 4y agoThe definition of minority shifts depending on who the dominant power is.
- simonh 4y agoJust as not all Hindus are bullies, surely not all Muslims are Islamists? As an atheist I could give a single crap about these labels. Can we all agree that because some people there in category A did something bad to some people in category B, doesn’t mean it’s right for some other people in category B over here to hurt some other people in category A. Right?
- rnk 4y agoAt least the current nationalist Hindu government are authoritarian anti-democratic almost fascists, using democracy to reduce the rights of others and block competition. The us is not without our own groups trying to keep others from voting. And although the US strives to be a democracy for all, we were historically and to a good extent today are very racist. But the imperfections of my own country doesn't prevent me pointing out problems in other countries, and it goes the other way too.