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I agree, but... in my experience Android and Android devices suck in comparison to iOS and iPhones. Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iP

I agree, but... in my experience Android and Android devices suck in comparison to iOS and iPhones. Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? Is it because of Apple patents? Is it because they assume that if a company as large as Google couldn't do it then nobody can do it? Is it just developers are such a small part of the general populace that there is no money in creating something that will most appeal to them? That is, apple devices already have the mindshare of people who have no interest in creating their own apps and Android already has the rest of the populace, who can't afford apple products, tied up? So, creating a phone that is open while being as nice as iOS/iPhone just isn't a profitable endeavor?

JohnFen 4y ago
> in my experience Android and Android devices suck in comparison to iOS and iPhones. I wonder how much of this is "the thing I'm used to is the best thing?" every time I hear this sort of comparison (regardless of which type of machine the commenter thinks is "best".) The thing that makes me wonder is because my experience is the opposite of yours -- I think Android is much superior to iOS. But I suspect much of my opinion is because I'm much more used to Android than iOS.
- gretch 4y ago
  It’s because needs and preferences differ. There is not 1 objective evaluation that makes it the “best”. Consider a minivan and a sports convertible on which car is the best car - many people will say my car is better and are optimizing for their own personal interests
rchaud 4y ago
> Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? Nokia tried in 2009/10 with the N900 running a Linux-based OS. It flopped, partially because Nokia was about to jettison their entire software stack to shack up with Windows Phone OS. But also partially because it came way too early, at a time when Apple and Google were spending millions to tell consumers that smartphones without app stores were useless and dangerous.
aembleton 4y ago
> Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? What is it about Android and Android devices that sucks? Does this apply to all Android devices? For example Samsung and Pixel phones get regular updates but the others don't.

JohnFen 4y ago

> in my experience Android and Android devices suck in comparison to iOS and iPhones. I wonder how much of this is "the thing I'm used to is the best thing?" every time I hear this sort of comparison (regardless of which type of machine the commenter thinks is "best".) The thing that makes me wonder is because my experience is the opposite of yours -- I think Android is much superior to iOS. But I suspect much of my opinion is because I'm much more used to Android than iOS.

gretch 4y ago
It’s because needs and preferences differ. There is not 1 objective evaluation that makes it the “best”. Consider a minivan and a sports convertible on which car is the best car - many people will say my car is better and are optimizing for their own personal interests

rchaud 4y ago

> Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? Nokia tried in 2009/10 with the N900 running a Linux-based OS. It flopped, partially because Nokia was about to jettison their entire software stack to shack up with Windows Phone OS. But also partially because it came way too early, at a time when Apple and Google were spending millions to tell consumers that smartphones without app stores were useless and dangerous.

aembleton 4y ago

> Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? What is it about Android and Android devices that sucks? Does this apply to all Android devices? For example Samsung and Pixel phones get regular updates but the others don't.