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Evolution seems to have done so without any intentionality. I'm less concerned about the idea that AI will become conscious. What concerns me is that we start

Evolution seems to have done so without any intentionality. I'm less concerned about the idea that AI will become conscious. What concerns me is that we start hooking these things up to systems that allow them to do actual harm. While the question of whether it's having a conscious experience or not is an interesting one, it ultimately doesn't matter. It can be "smart" enough to do harm whether it's conscious or not. Indeed, after reading this, I'm less worried that we end up as paperclips or grey goo, and more concerned that this tech just continues the shittification of everything, fills the internet with crap, and generally making life harder and more irritating for the average Joe.

tibbar 4y ago
Yes. If the machine can produce a narrative of harm, and it is connected to tools that allow it to execute its narrative, we're in deep trouble. At that point, we should focus on what narratives it can produce, and what seems to "provoke" it, over whether it has an internal experience, whatever that means.
- mlatu 4y ago
  please do humor me and meditate on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1iWK3dlowI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1iWK3dlowI So when you say I And point to the I as that Which doesn't change It cannot be what happens to you It cannot be the thoughts, It cannot be the emotions and feelings that you experience So, what is the nature of I? What does the word mean Or point to? something timeless, it's always been there who you truly are, underneath all the circumstances. Untouched by time. Every Answer Generates further questions - Eckhart Tolle ------ yeah, yeah, he is a self help guru or whatevs, dismiss him but meditate on these his words. i think it is species-driven solipsism, perhaps with a dash of colonialism to disregard the possibility of a consciousness emerging from a substrate soaked in information. i understand that it's all statistics, that whatever results from all that "training" is just a multidimensional acceleration datastructure for processing vast amounts of data. but, in what way are we different? what makes us so special that only us humans can experience consciousness? in the history humans have time and again used language to draw a line between themselfs and other (i really want to write consciousness-substrates here:) humans they perceived SUB to them. i think this kind of research is unethical as long as we dont have a solid understanding of what a "consciousness" is: where "I" points to and perhaps how we could transfer that from one substrate to another. perhaps that would be actual proof. at least subjectively :) thank you for reading and humoring me
O__________O 4y ago
> What concerns me is that we start hooking these things up to systems that allow them to do actual harm. This already happened long, long ago; notable example: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand

tibbar 4y ago

Yes. If the machine can produce a narrative of harm, and it is connected to tools that allow it to execute its narrative, we're in deep trouble. At that point, we should focus on what narratives it can produce, and what seems to "provoke" it, over whether it has an internal experience, whatever that means.

mlatu 4y ago
please do humor me and meditate on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1iWK3dlowI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1iWK3dlowI So when you say I And point to the I as that Which doesn't change It cannot be what happens to you It cannot be the thoughts, It cannot be the emotions and feelings that you experience So, what is the nature of I? What does the word mean Or point to? something timeless, it's always been there who you truly are, underneath all the circumstances. Untouched by time. Every Answer Generates further questions - Eckhart Tolle ------ yeah, yeah, he is a self help guru or whatevs, dismiss him but meditate on these his words. i think it is species-driven solipsism, perhaps with a dash of colonialism to disregard the possibility of a consciousness emerging from a substrate soaked in information. i understand that it's all statistics, that whatever results from all that "training" is just a multidimensional acceleration datastructure for processing vast amounts of data. but, in what way are we different? what makes us so special that only us humans can experience consciousness? in the history humans have time and again used language to draw a line between themselfs and other (i really want to write consciousness-substrates here:) humans they perceived SUB to them. i think this kind of research is unethical as long as we dont have a solid understanding of what a "consciousness" is: where "I" points to and perhaps how we could transfer that from one substrate to another. perhaps that would be actual proof. at least subjectively :) thank you for reading and humoring me

O__________O 4y ago

> What concerns me is that we start hooking these things up to systems that allow them to do actual harm. This already happened long, long ago; notable example: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand