I don't know the current status of any particular brand, but I was assuming there are still new ICE cars being made in 2023 that don't require a permanent cloud

I don't know the current status of any particular brand, but I was assuming there are still new ICE cars being made in 2023 that don't require a permanent cloud connection, app, or website in order to own, use, or maintain. If that is not the case, please let me know. But I know for sure that there are no electric cars you can buy that don't require the owner/drive to be a "user" of various IT systems run by the car maker. Which effectively means you can buy the car, but never actually own it.