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What a world would we live in if Bernie Sanders won those 2016 elections...

by Lucasoato 4y ago

dekken_ 4y ago
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- Der_Einzige 4y ago
  I'm still shocked to this day that Obama didn't get assassinated. I thought he'd make it less than a year.
  - tristor 4y ago
    Why? Why would you imagine that a globalist neoliberal who continued growth of funding to the military industrial complex would end up assassinated while POTUS?
fullshark 4y ago
One where nothing much changed but the Democrats would be doing the populist posturing instead of the Republicans.
shagie 4y ago
The executive branch has a lot less power than people think it does. Aside from the executive orders on "how" to implement laws that congress passes and the curtailments to power by the Supreme Court, they don't have much control over the purse strings. If congress doesn't like the "how" they either update the law or have the SCOTUS to make a ruling that says they don't have that power in the first place. A president can say to congress "I'd like you to pass a bill that..." and they can change some things for federal workers - but for states, they've got very little regulatory power outside of what has been granted to them through the various departments (e.g. Department of Education). 2016 had a 52/46/2 senate composition with a republican majority. The house was 241 to 194 with a republican majority. My crystal ball for a hypothetical president Sanders shows a president who would have been able to do very little except for some executive orders which would get overridden by congress. The house would have been very unlikely to give him the budget to fulfill his promises and ideals while blaming him and every executive branch agency for every failing and catastrophe that occurred in 2020.
lukas099 4y ago
We wouldn't have had tax cuts in 2017 and we would have a much more liberal Supreme Court. I guess Jan 6th wouldn't have happened either. I have no idea how we would have fared differently through the pandemic. I don't think Bernie would have gotten any meaningful legislation passed but I've been wrong before.

What a world would we live in if Bernie Sanders won those 2016 elections...

dekken_ 4y ago

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Der_Einzige 4y ago
I'm still shocked to this day that Obama didn't get assassinated. I thought he'd make it less than a year.
- tristor 4y ago
  Why? Why would you imagine that a globalist neoliberal who continued growth of funding to the military industrial complex would end up assassinated while POTUS?

fullshark 4y ago

One where nothing much changed but the Democrats would be doing the populist posturing instead of the Republicans.

shagie 4y ago

The executive branch has a lot less power than people think it does. Aside from the executive orders on "how" to implement laws that congress passes and the curtailments to power by the Supreme Court, they don't have much control over the purse strings. If congress doesn't like the "how" they either update the law or have the SCOTUS to make a ruling that says they don't have that power in the first place. A president can say to congress "I'd like you to pass a bill that..." and they can change some things for federal workers - but for states, they've got very little regulatory power outside of what has been granted to them through the various departments (e.g. Department of Education). 2016 had a 52/46/2 senate composition with a republican majority. The house was 241 to 194 with a republican majority. My crystal ball for a hypothetical president Sanders shows a president who would have been able to do very little except for some executive orders which would get overridden by congress. The house would have been very unlikely to give him the budget to fulfill his promises and ideals while blaming him and every executive branch agency for every failing and catastrophe that occurred in 2020.

lukas099 4y ago

We wouldn't have had tax cuts in 2017 and we would have a much more liberal Supreme Court. I guess Jan 6th wouldn't have happened either. I have no idea how we would have fared differently through the pandemic. I don't think Bernie would have gotten any meaningful legislation passed but I've been wrong before.