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The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla you are in the same crap as the rest of the BEV owners. >on-the-road charging with El

The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla you are in the same crap as the rest of the BEV owners. >on-the-road charging with Elli membership Why should I buy some stupid membership so I can pay monthly fee + charging fee? I am not buying memberships for taking gas either.

neon_electro 4y ago
Net cost of energy, and a quick payback on your monthly fee based on the savings vs. not paying the monthly fee. It's math.
clouddrover 4y ago
> The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla There are 21 Tesla charging sites in Finland and 14 of them are now open to all EVs. So you could be making use of two thirds of Tesla's Finnish charging sites with your Skoda Enyaq right now.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  Lol on 14 open superchargers. Tried Tesla app. It told me to insert VIN of my car, to tell me that this is not Tesla VIN. Well no shit Sherlock. So even if I would like to charge (and pay) on superchargers, I can't.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    Everyone else is managing to. Maybe you should try again. It just seems like a lot of your problems are self-inflicted. You could be doing things easier.
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
      Or, hear me out, there could be NFC payment terminal instead of registering on ANOTHER STUPID APPLICATION Even public transportation trams and buses in Eastern Europe have NFC terminals on board to buy tickets. Why is it so hard for a damn charger in Western Europe to have one? https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        So you don't actually want any practical solutions. You just want to have a whinge and a moan. Instead of wishing for what isn't, you could be doing a lot better with what is.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        I don't need a "practical" application of local gas network to buy gas. I don't need a "practical" application of local supermarket chain to buy grocieries. Why should I tolerate buggy applications to charge an electric car on incompatible chargers? Why there isn't an NFC terminal which I can find almost in any store in EU and today even on vending machines? The chargers already have internet connection, so where is the problem? I am not a masochist and I am refusing to live in this customer hell. This is one of the reasons why I am selling this joke of a car and going back to ICE.
        clouddrover 4y ago
        > I am not a masochist I think you are. Why else would you buy something you didn't understand? You plainly didn't think through the practicalities before you bought it.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        Oh, so 12 years from now only BEVs will be available, what will be your recommendation to people who will have same issues like I do? Tell them that they are masochists, who don't understand the car and they should not have bought it at a first place, despite the fact, that their choices are artificially limited? I bought the car using my own money to get the experience with BEV and I found out, that it sucks big time. I was expecting that it might be a little bit inconvenient, but I was not expecting to be such a massive bag of problems with BEV proponents like you trying to gaslight me that user is the problem.
        clouddrover 4y ago

neon_electro 4y ago

Net cost of energy, and a quick payback on your monthly fee based on the savings vs. not paying the monthly fee. It's math.

clouddrover 4y ago

> The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla There are 21 Tesla charging sites in Finland and 14 of them are now open to all EVs. So you could be making use of two thirds of Tesla's Finnish charging sites with your Skoda Enyaq right now.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Lol on 14 open superchargers. Tried Tesla app. It told me to insert VIN of my car, to tell me that this is not Tesla VIN. Well no shit Sherlock. So even if I would like to charge (and pay) on superchargers, I can't.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  Everyone else is managing to. Maybe you should try again. It just seems like a lot of your problems are self-inflicted. You could be doing things easier.
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    Or, hear me out, there could be NFC payment terminal instead of registering on ANOTHER STUPID APPLICATION Even public transportation trams and buses in Eastern Europe have NFC terminals on board to buy tickets. Why is it so hard for a damn charger in Western Europe to have one? https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      So you don't actually want any practical solutions. You just want to have a whinge and a moan. Instead of wishing for what isn't, you could be doing a lot better with what is.
      - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        I don't need a "practical" application of local gas network to buy gas. I don't need a "practical" application of local supermarket chain to buy grocieries. Why should I tolerate buggy applications to charge an electric car on incompatible chargers? Why there isn't an NFC terminal which I can find almost in any store in EU and today even on vending machines? The chargers already have internet connection, so where is the problem? I am not a masochist and I am refusing to live in this customer hell. This is one of the reasons why I am selling this joke of a car and going back to ICE.
        clouddrover 4y ago
        > I am not a masochist I think you are. Why else would you buy something you didn't understand? You plainly didn't think through the practicalities before you bought it.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        Oh, so 12 years from now only BEVs will be available, what will be your recommendation to people who will have same issues like I do? Tell them that they are masochists, who don't understand the car and they should not have bought it at a first place, despite the fact, that their choices are artificially limited? I bought the car using my own money to get the experience with BEV and I found out, that it sucks big time. I was expecting that it might be a little bit inconvenient, but I was not expecting to be such a massive bag of problems with BEV proponents like you trying to gaslight me that user is the problem.
        clouddrover 4y ago