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I think your experience reflects more your choise of car than EVs as technology. I have been driving Tesla happily for 3.5 years. I regularly make long distance

by Yaggo 4y ago

I think your experience reflects more your choise of car than EVs as technology. I have been driving Tesla happily for 3.5 years. I regularly make long distance trips to remote areas of Finland. No problems whatsoever. I pay 25 snt/kWh for on-the-road charging with Elli membership, about 12 snt at home.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla you are in the same crap as the rest of the BEV owners. >on-the-road charging with Elli membership Why should I buy some stupid membership so I can pay monthly fee + charging fee? I am not buying memberships for taking gas either.
- neon_electro 4y ago
  Net cost of energy, and a quick payback on your monthly fee based on the savings vs. not paying the monthly fee. It's math.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla There are 21 Tesla charging sites in Finland and 14 of them are now open to all EVs. So you could be making use of two thirds of Tesla's Finnish charging sites with your Skoda Enyaq right now.
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    Lol on 14 open superchargers. Tried Tesla app. It told me to insert VIN of my car, to tell me that this is not Tesla VIN. Well no shit Sherlock. So even if I would like to charge (and pay) on superchargers, I can't.
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      Everyone else is managing to. Maybe you should try again. It just seems like a lot of your problems are self-inflicted. You could be doing things easier.
      - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        Or, hear me out, there could be NFC payment terminal instead of registering on ANOTHER STUPID APPLICATION Even public transportation trams and buses in Eastern Europe have NFC terminals on board to buy tickets. Why is it so hard for a damn charger in Western Europe to have one? https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare
        clouddrover 4y ago
        So you don't actually want any practical solutions. You just want to have a whinge and a moan. Instead of wishing for what isn't, you could be doing a lot better with what is.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        I don't need a "practical" application of local gas network to buy gas. I don't need a "practical" application of local supermarket chain to buy grocieries. Why should I tolerate buggy applications to charge an electric car on incompatible chargers? Why there isn't an NFC terminal which I can find almost in any store in EU and today even on vending machines? The chargers already have internet connection, so where is the problem? I am not a masochist and I am refusing to live in this customer hell. This is one of the reasons why I am selling this joke of a car and going back to ICE.
        clouddrover 4y ago
        > I am not a masochist I think you are. Why else would you buy something you didn't understand? You plainly didn't think through the practicalities before you bought it.
clircle 4y ago
"The user is the problem"

by Yaggo 4y ago

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla you are in the same crap as the rest of the BEV owners. >on-the-road charging with Elli membership Why should I buy some stupid membership so I can pay monthly fee + charging fee? I am not buying memberships for taking gas either.

neon_electro 4y ago
Net cost of energy, and a quick payback on your monthly fee based on the savings vs. not paying the monthly fee. It's math.
clouddrover 4y ago
> The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla There are 21 Tesla charging sites in Finland and 14 of them are now open to all EVs. So you could be making use of two thirds of Tesla's Finnish charging sites with your Skoda Enyaq right now.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  Lol on 14 open superchargers. Tried Tesla app. It told me to insert VIN of my car, to tell me that this is not Tesla VIN. Well no shit Sherlock. So even if I would like to charge (and pay) on superchargers, I can't.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    Everyone else is managing to. Maybe you should try again. It just seems like a lot of your problems are self-inflicted. You could be doing things easier.
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
      Or, hear me out, there could be NFC payment terminal instead of registering on ANOTHER STUPID APPLICATION Even public transportation trams and buses in Eastern Europe have NFC terminals on board to buy tickets. Why is it so hard for a damn charger in Western Europe to have one? https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        So you don't actually want any practical solutions. You just want to have a whinge and a moan. Instead of wishing for what isn't, you could be doing a lot better with what is.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
        I don't need a "practical" application of local gas network to buy gas. I don't need a "practical" application of local supermarket chain to buy grocieries. Why should I tolerate buggy applications to charge an electric car on incompatible chargers? Why there isn't an NFC terminal which I can find almost in any store in EU and today even on vending machines? The chargers already have internet connection, so where is the problem? I am not a masochist and I am refusing to live in this customer hell. This is one of the reasons why I am selling this joke of a car and going back to ICE.
        clouddrover 4y ago
        > I am not a masochist I think you are. Why else would you buy something you didn't understand? You plainly didn't think through the practicalities before you bought it.

clircle 4y ago

"The user is the problem"