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Are MSM reports clearly stating there's a massive black cloud that will likely rain acid? Are they showing fish floating belly up? Are they covering the farmers

Are MSM reports clearly stating there's a massive black cloud that will likely rain acid? Are they showing fish floating belly up? Are they covering the farmers saying animals are dying and becoming ill many miles away? Are they showing the panicked videos all over twitter and tiktok showing residents and their relatives stating MSM news is not telling the real story, that nobody seems to be taking care of them and that some have become quite ill?

jakear 4y ago
Radios don't support video, but apart from that yeah pretty much. Quite literally the top result when I search on twitter for "Ohio" is a tweet from several days ago with a photo of the cloud and talk of acid rain, others have photos about the dead livestock and fish. They've been viewed 40M+ times. https://mobile.twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1624885466469175298 https://mobile.twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/16248854664... This news is nowhere near as secret as people want to believe. I don't know why so many are convinced it is. Maybe some desire to feel part of a small "in the know" group?
- riffic 4y ago
  terrestrial television is actually a form of radio.
  - jakear 4y ago
    The countable noun refers to the audio receiving device.
- npc12345 4y ago
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- detrites 4y ago
  My point was the widely-available posts on social media, and specifically their focus, does not match up with what is shown in the Main-Stream Media (MSM), meaning major stations such as MSNBC, CNN etc. These outlets are reporting on it, but given the reality on the ground, it's disingenuous or outright misleading at best. The fact people impacted are complaining of a lack of safety, help and awareness is extremely concerning. It's not something to trivialise.
  - jakear 4y ago
    It's on the front page of MSNBC, above the fold, with a video containing pretty much everything you listed. It's on the front page of CNN, below the fold, with statements from officials regarding the items you listed. It's on the front page of Fox news, several times over, above and below the fold, with interviews with locals, congress-people, and officials discussing the health impacts. https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/ohio-train-derailment-republicans-environmental-justice-rcna70586 https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/ohio-train-de... https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/14/us/ohio-train-derailment-investigation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/14/us/ohio-train-derailment-inve... https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320468301112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320468301112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320460608112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320460608112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320455536112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320455536112
    - detrites 4y ago
      Thanks for the links. I looked at the first two and neither had a hit for the word "acid". The first seemed to shift the issues onto a chance to rip into the GOP. Dig into the blame part after everyones safe, surely? The second had this: "There has been no evidence of non-aquatic species suffering from the derailment, she said, and they haven’t had any concerns about that." This is exactly opposite to many claims made by people actually there. In all these articles seem to misrepresent/minimise versus reports on the ground, exactly as I stated. I didn't have time to watch the Fox News videos, maybe they're different?
      - jakear 4y ago
        The second article goes on to state: > When asked about anecdotal reports of people getting headaches and sore throats, and of animals, such as cats and chickens, dying near the train derailment, Ohio Health Director Dr. Bruce Vanderhoff said that air quality does not appear to be the source. You can disagree with the officials if you like, that doesn't change the fact that the news reporters asked them about the issues you mentioned, and they gave an official response. This is what the news is for! Here's ABC talking about the acid: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/toxins-ohio-train-derailment-posed-deadly-threats-residents/story?id=96978394 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/toxins-ohio-train-derailment-p... All in all this is a dumb discussion. The G**P claimed that no one was talking about this, I show that every major media outlet has this as front page news, then people just chime in to say that... the news the media reports doesn't exactly match their preconceived notions based on looking at TikTok? I say that's great! It'd be far, far, far worse if every news outlet and social media were presenting the same narrative.

jakear 4y ago

Radios don't support video, but apart from that yeah pretty much. Quite literally the top result when I search on twitter for "Ohio" is a tweet from several days ago with a photo of the cloud and talk of acid rain, others have photos about the dead livestock and fish. They've been viewed 40M+ times. https://mobile.twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1624885466469175298 https://mobile.twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/16248854664... This news is nowhere near as secret as people want to believe. I don't know why so many are convinced it is. Maybe some desire to feel part of a small "in the know" group?

riffic 4y ago
terrestrial television is actually a form of radio.
- jakear 4y ago
  The countable noun refers to the audio receiving device.
npc12345 4y ago
[dead]
detrites 4y ago
My point was the widely-available posts on social media, and specifically their focus, does not match up with what is shown in the Main-Stream Media (MSM), meaning major stations such as MSNBC, CNN etc. These outlets are reporting on it, but given the reality on the ground, it's disingenuous or outright misleading at best. The fact people impacted are complaining of a lack of safety, help and awareness is extremely concerning. It's not something to trivialise.
- jakear 4y ago
  It's on the front page of MSNBC, above the fold, with a video containing pretty much everything you listed. It's on the front page of CNN, below the fold, with statements from officials regarding the items you listed. It's on the front page of Fox news, several times over, above and below the fold, with interviews with locals, congress-people, and officials discussing the health impacts. https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/ohio-train-derailment-republicans-environmental-justice-rcna70586 https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/ohio-train-de... https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/14/us/ohio-train-derailment-investigation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/14/us/ohio-train-derailment-inve... https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320468301112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320468301112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320460608112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320460608112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320455536112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320455536112
  - detrites 4y ago
    Thanks for the links. I looked at the first two and neither had a hit for the word "acid". The first seemed to shift the issues onto a chance to rip into the GOP. Dig into the blame part after everyones safe, surely? The second had this: "There has been no evidence of non-aquatic species suffering from the derailment, she said, and they haven’t had any concerns about that." This is exactly opposite to many claims made by people actually there. In all these articles seem to misrepresent/minimise versus reports on the ground, exactly as I stated. I didn't have time to watch the Fox News videos, maybe they're different?
    - jakear 4y ago
      The second article goes on to state: > When asked about anecdotal reports of people getting headaches and sore throats, and of animals, such as cats and chickens, dying near the train derailment, Ohio Health Director Dr. Bruce Vanderhoff said that air quality does not appear to be the source. You can disagree with the officials if you like, that doesn't change the fact that the news reporters asked them about the issues you mentioned, and they gave an official response. This is what the news is for! Here's ABC talking about the acid: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/toxins-ohio-train-derailment-posed-deadly-threats-residents/story?id=96978394 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/toxins-ohio-train-derailment-p... All in all this is a dumb discussion. The G**P claimed that no one was talking about this, I show that every major media outlet has this as front page news, then people just chime in to say that... the news the media reports doesn't exactly match their preconceived notions based on looking at TikTok? I say that's great! It'd be far, far, far worse if every news outlet and social media were presenting the same narrative.