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> In the case of Southeast Asia, just getting used to the water is far more easily achieved than fixing it everywhere due to the high cost of a good water syste

> In the case of Southeast Asia, just getting used to the water is far more easily achieved than fixing it everywhere due to the high cost of a good water system. Some people get ill but life always carries risk. And for foreigners there's always bottled water. In our case we make a different tradeoff. 'Southeast Asia' doesn't make a trade-off because they analyzed the data and came to the conclusion that their population is better off with half-filtered water, they do it because they are poor and have bad infrastructure. Would you like their water supply so you can get your immune system trained? While at it maybe start eating unrefrigerated food. My friend from Africa did that growing up and has an iron stomach -- it sure does work (too bad about all the kids who died though because they got unlucky). The problem isn't 'it doesn't work', the problem is 'you can't just get rid of the awful bad ones and leave the kinda bad ones. Either you do it or you don't. This is why your type of argument is terrible.

wkat4242 4y ago
It's just that I draw the line at "good enough" with where we are now. I'm ok with the risk and I don't want to go everywhere masked (which I find really horrible for historical trauma reasons) or bother with ventilation and sterilisation stuff. I will never do that kind of stuff willingly. If anything covid told me it's better not to be too fussy because it's over quickly (unlike China which really tried to kill it at all costs). But when people say the immune system can't be trained by exposure I just have to disagree.
- Eisenstein 4y ago
  That isn't what this thread is about. You tagged on to an argument that 'we need to keep our immune systems active', which is bullshit because getting cholera or covid is not healthy and keeping environments like HVAC/vent systems as sterile as possible (for instance using UVC) is important so that COVID doesn't blow into peoples faces in the unnatural environment of people crammed into small enclosed spaces.
  - wkat4242 4y ago
    I think it is important to 'see' a little bit of covid all the time so the immune system knows it's still a thing and keep making antibodies. And the cost of those HVAC sterilisations will of course be paid by all of us (customers of venues, transport etc). But anyway your mind is set and so is mine so there is no point in continuing.
    - Eisenstein 4y ago
      > I think it is important to 'see' a little bit of covid all the time so the immune system knows it's still a thing and keep making antibodies. So you are arguing because you feel like it is correct, based on nothing more than your own intuition. > And the cost of those HVAC sterilisations will of course be paid by all of us (customers of venues, transport etc). Are you willing to give up your nice clean water and get some 'southeastern asian' water to save a few cents? I mean, who cares how many people die from it, cause life is risky eh?

wkat4242 4y ago

It's just that I draw the line at "good enough" with where we are now. I'm ok with the risk and I don't want to go everywhere masked (which I find really horrible for historical trauma reasons) or bother with ventilation and sterilisation stuff. I will never do that kind of stuff willingly. If anything covid told me it's better not to be too fussy because it's over quickly (unlike China which really tried to kill it at all costs). But when people say the immune system can't be trained by exposure I just have to disagree.

Eisenstein 4y ago
That isn't what this thread is about. You tagged on to an argument that 'we need to keep our immune systems active', which is bullshit because getting cholera or covid is not healthy and keeping environments like HVAC/vent systems as sterile as possible (for instance using UVC) is important so that COVID doesn't blow into peoples faces in the unnatural environment of people crammed into small enclosed spaces.
- wkat4242 4y ago
  I think it is important to 'see' a little bit of covid all the time so the immune system knows it's still a thing and keep making antibodies. And the cost of those HVAC sterilisations will of course be paid by all of us (customers of venues, transport etc). But anyway your mind is set and so is mine so there is no point in continuing.
  - Eisenstein 4y ago
    > I think it is important to 'see' a little bit of covid all the time so the immune system knows it's still a thing and keep making antibodies. So you are arguing because you feel like it is correct, based on nothing more than your own intuition. > And the cost of those HVAC sterilisations will of course be paid by all of us (customers of venues, transport etc). Are you willing to give up your nice clean water and get some 'southeastern asian' water to save a few cents? I mean, who cares how many people die from it, cause life is risky eh?