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KDE Plasma 5.27 release, with better multi monitor support and a tiling system

20 points by signa11 4y ago

lucideer 4y ago
I've avoided KDE for decades - mostly because I've had a preference for lighter systems (big Openbox user), but even when I've used Unity & Gnome Shell, I always shied away from KDE because it was just so damn ugly (shallow, I know). Of course anything can be restyled but defaults make an important first impression, & I've never seen anything worthwhile in community skins. So thanks to whomever put all the love & care into Breeze. I actually ended up with KDE as my current system after trying a few other systems & mainly intending to use Sway, but running into a bunch of multi-monitor issues, so the two headlines in this announcement couldn't be more relevant. MM support is already ahead of comparable systems.
AzzieElbab 4y ago
Looks great. Always appreciated KDE for easy customisation. Do I actually need to click windows for tiling?
- jlpcsl 4y ago
  For now there are no keyboard shortcuts available to tile the active window into some zone. Hopefully this will be supported soon. For now you have to hold Shift key and use mouse to click on a window and drag it into a zone.
steve-atx-7600 4y ago
Tried KDE recently after several years. Scrapped it as soon as I realized it doesn't have easy to enable global emacs key-bindings like Gnome. I swear this used to be possible 15 years ago. I also expected more configuration options than Gnome. But, there was no way to disable showing the contents of windows when windows are moved (Gnome doesn't allow this anymore either).
jlpcsl 4y ago
A nice video review of KDE Plasma 5.27 by Nick from The Linux Experiment https://tilvids.com/w/cca9c89d-4c21-499a-aa3f-08fb8af0a4c6 https://tilvids.com/w/cca9c89d-4c21-499a-aa3f-08fb8af0a4c6
brmgb 4y ago
I think KDE fills a very peculiar niche. On the one hand, it's highly customisable and it's trying it's best to genuinely provide an interesting technical offering through flexible and useful tools. On the other hand, it's full of glaring design mistakes with paddings, margins and centering issues everywhere.
- lucideer 4y ago
  > it's full of glaring design mistakes with paddings, margins and centering issues everywhere. Have you tried it recently? I've always thought this but am now using it as my main DE (for the first time) & this seems to be entirely fixed. Not sure if it's just the new default theme (Breeze) or also a combination of many other fixes to the core DE, but... it's a lot better than I remember in the past. Pretty great actually.
  - brmgb 4y ago
    > Have you tried it recently? I've always thought this but am now using it as my main DE (for the first time) & this seems to be entirely fixed. I don't need to try it. The pictures in this release annoucement display it everywhere. Honestly, given my downvoting, I think most KDE users are just blind to it but it's completely unusable as far as I'm concerned. Look, the first screenshot of the article is already enough (https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/plasma-welcome.png https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/plasma-welc...). It has inconsistent margins in the title bar. See the white space between the skip button and the text. It's awful. Padding is wrong in the button. There is too much white space on the left and too little on right. The alignments on the next button and the close button is off. Even the mascot is not properly centered. It only gets worth from here, even the calendar (https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/hebrew-calendar.jpg https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/hebrew-cale...). Look at the dook, look at the small print, look at highlight. All the margins are inconstistent.

20 points by signa11 4y ago

I've avoided KDE for decades - mostly because I've had a preference for lighter systems (big Openbox user), but even when I've used Unity & Gnome Shell, I always shied away from KDE because it was just so damn ugly (shallow, I know). Of course anything can be restyled but defaults make an important first impression, & I've never seen anything worthwhile in community skins. So thanks to whomever put all the love & care into Breeze. I actually ended up with KDE as my current system after trying a few other systems & mainly intending to use Sway, but running into a bunch of multi-monitor issues, so the two headlines in this announcement couldn't be more relevant. MM support is already ahead of comparable systems.

AzzieElbab 4y ago

Looks great. Always appreciated KDE for easy customisation. Do I actually need to click windows for tiling?

jlpcsl 4y ago
For now there are no keyboard shortcuts available to tile the active window into some zone. Hopefully this will be supported soon. For now you have to hold Shift key and use mouse to click on a window and drag it into a zone.

steve-atx-7600 4y ago

Tried KDE recently after several years. Scrapped it as soon as I realized it doesn't have easy to enable global emacs key-bindings like Gnome. I swear this used to be possible 15 years ago. I also expected more configuration options than Gnome. But, there was no way to disable showing the contents of windows when windows are moved (Gnome doesn't allow this anymore either).

jlpcsl 4y ago

A nice video review of KDE Plasma 5.27 by Nick from The Linux Experiment https://tilvids.com/w/cca9c89d-4c21-499a-aa3f-08fb8af0a4c6 https://tilvids.com/w/cca9c89d-4c21-499a-aa3f-08fb8af0a4c6

brmgb 4y ago

I think KDE fills a very peculiar niche. On the one hand, it's highly customisable and it's trying it's best to genuinely provide an interesting technical offering through flexible and useful tools. On the other hand, it's full of glaring design mistakes with paddings, margins and centering issues everywhere.

lucideer 4y ago
> it's full of glaring design mistakes with paddings, margins and centering issues everywhere. Have you tried it recently? I've always thought this but am now using it as my main DE (for the first time) & this seems to be entirely fixed. Not sure if it's just the new default theme (Breeze) or also a combination of many other fixes to the core DE, but... it's a lot better than I remember in the past. Pretty great actually.
- brmgb 4y ago
  > Have you tried it recently? I've always thought this but am now using it as my main DE (for the first time) & this seems to be entirely fixed. I don't need to try it. The pictures in this release annoucement display it everywhere. Honestly, given my downvoting, I think most KDE users are just blind to it but it's completely unusable as far as I'm concerned. Look, the first screenshot of the article is already enough (https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/plasma-welcome.png https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/plasma-welc...). It has inconsistent margins in the title bar. See the white space between the skip button and the text. It's awful. Padding is wrong in the button. There is too much white space on the left and too little on right. The alignments on the next button and the close button is off. Even the mascot is not properly centered. It only gets worth from here, even the calendar (https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/hebrew-calendar.jpg https://kde.org/fr/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/hebrew-cale...). Look at the dook, look at the small print, look at highlight. All the margins are inconstistent.