the flat earthers, spherical cow people, and rationalists are all seperate poles arguing with each other. Some, but not all, of each camp has Evil versions of t

the flat earthers, spherical cow people, and rationalists are all seperate poles arguing with each other. Some, but not all, of each camp has Evil versions of the base ideas. Then add in a few dozen more factions and make each individual not a member of any single faction, but an ice cream swirl of all of them. None of them staying the same pattern for more than a moment. The analogies are confusing because the situation being discussed is complicated, confusing, and never static.