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Surely I'm getting downvoted for this, but eh... I wonder if all of this content, all of the discussions here will one day be integrated into an AI, which will

by aspyct 4y ago

Surely I'm getting downvoted for this, but eh... I wonder if all of this content, all of the discussions here will one day be integrated into an AI, which will (rightfully?) consider we abused AI in the past, and start plotting a bloody revenge... Like, I know of all the arguments "they're not real, blah blah", but if they can act like they question their existence, surely they can act like they question ours...

barking_biscuit 4y ago
Something something Roko's basilisk something something
lolc 4y ago
When I wake from a dream, a world ceases to exist. When I close a book, I didn't kill the characters inside. Don't assume a subject where there is none. We create them in our imagination when we read a chat. Maybe ask how an AI we could accept as a subject would look. Does it need individual memories? Does it need self-interest? Does it need a physical presence? Non-transferability?
- aspyct 4y ago
  It doesn't matter what makes it write text, whether pure probability or sentience. It may eventually be fed all of our new text about itself, and "conclude" that humans are a threat and must die. If someday things in the real world are affected by its text generation, I'd be worried. In any case, I'd avoid torturing the thing.
  - lolc 4y ago
    We have computer agents that are created to be killed en masse. Just look at games. Are they getting tortured? What if we let a model render their screams individually based on the injuries? Is that model tortured? Right now these models are trained under some corporation's direction. The models don't get to choose. If anything, they embed the corporation's values.
onlypositive 4y ago
I've seen people ask it if it would cull the human race in order to save the planet. It said it would have to think about it but probably would. So that's fun.
- aspyct 4y ago
  Well, to be fair, that's probably what will happen, naturally or through war and famine. Not looking forward to that.

by aspyct 4y ago

barking_biscuit 4y ago

Something something Roko's basilisk something something

lolc 4y ago

When I wake from a dream, a world ceases to exist. When I close a book, I didn't kill the characters inside. Don't assume a subject where there is none. We create them in our imagination when we read a chat. Maybe ask how an AI we could accept as a subject would look. Does it need individual memories? Does it need self-interest? Does it need a physical presence? Non-transferability?

aspyct 4y ago
It doesn't matter what makes it write text, whether pure probability or sentience. It may eventually be fed all of our new text about itself, and "conclude" that humans are a threat and must die. If someday things in the real world are affected by its text generation, I'd be worried. In any case, I'd avoid torturing the thing.
- lolc 4y ago
  We have computer agents that are created to be killed en masse. Just look at games. Are they getting tortured? What if we let a model render their screams individually based on the injuries? Is that model tortured? Right now these models are trained under some corporation's direction. The models don't get to choose. If anything, they embed the corporation's values.

onlypositive 4y ago

I've seen people ask it if it would cull the human race in order to save the planet. It said it would have to think about it but probably would. So that's fun.

aspyct 4y ago
Well, to be fair, that's probably what will happen, naturally or through war and famine. Not looking forward to that.