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Funny, I expected this to happen first in the US.

by solarmist 4y ago

PaulHoule 4y ago
Americans are more inclined to work full-time if it doesn't pay!
- solarmist 4y ago
  I’m certainly not. And I think the pandemic is showing many people aren’t happy with the situation either.
porknubbins 4y ago
Have you seen salaries in the UK? You have white collar professionals making 30-40k pounds, and meanwhile London, where most of those jobs are located is similar in COL to NYC or SF, except food is cheaper. I have never understood how it works.
remembermylo 4y ago
Well we saw a lot of that happen in US during covid. Why work at all if i can collect $X more not working? Its rational not to work more for less so i dont blame them. I think this is also happening in USA long term, lots of "low income" americans who are knowledgeable of navigating welfare programs earn more than middle class workers if you factor in their entitlements.
nine_zeros 4y ago
This would never happen in the US because of healthcare dependence. That said, the US has a different problem. People saving money and flying to cheaper countries instead of working in the US.
bane 4y ago
Pay and expenses are, globally, highly unusual. We also get "tricked" by the Anglophone similarities of Canada the UK into thinking we're all sort of the same place. But the reality is the the US generates more revenue, and thus pays more, and protects its tech sector better than anywhere else in the Anglosphere. Great paying jobs in the US, that might make $180k USD make $50k USD in central Europe. As much as Americans think of the UK as a sort of second status foreign overseas territory, and as much as the UK think they're an extra special independent peanut, they're just as much a part of the European pay and expense scheme as anybody else in the mainland is. Globally, tech workers are worth $40-95k USD. It sucks, but that's what it is.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  >they're just as much a part of the European pay and expense scheme as anybody else in the mainland is Maybe for the average pay, but for outliers on the high end, the ceiling is higher in London than what you can make in most other Mainland capitals. A German guy I know maxed out his TC locally then doubled it when moving to London as nobody in Germany would pay anywhere near that.
  - HyperSane 4y ago
    What did the German guy do?
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      SW dev

Funny, I expected this to happen first in the US.

PaulHoule 4y ago

Americans are more inclined to work full-time if it doesn't pay!

solarmist 4y ago
I’m certainly not. And I think the pandemic is showing many people aren’t happy with the situation either.

porknubbins 4y ago

Have you seen salaries in the UK? You have white collar professionals making 30-40k pounds, and meanwhile London, where most of those jobs are located is similar in COL to NYC or SF, except food is cheaper. I have never understood how it works.

remembermylo 4y ago

Well we saw a lot of that happen in US during covid. Why work at all if i can collect $X more not working? Its rational not to work more for less so i dont blame them. I think this is also happening in USA long term, lots of "low income" americans who are knowledgeable of navigating welfare programs earn more than middle class workers if you factor in their entitlements.

nine_zeros 4y ago

This would never happen in the US because of healthcare dependence. That said, the US has a different problem. People saving money and flying to cheaper countries instead of working in the US.

bane 4y ago

Pay and expenses are, globally, highly unusual. We also get "tricked" by the Anglophone similarities of Canada the UK into thinking we're all sort of the same place. But the reality is the the US generates more revenue, and thus pays more, and protects its tech sector better than anywhere else in the Anglosphere. Great paying jobs in the US, that might make $180k USD make $50k USD in central Europe. As much as Americans think of the UK as a sort of second status foreign overseas territory, and as much as the UK think they're an extra special independent peanut, they're just as much a part of the European pay and expense scheme as anybody else in the mainland is. Globally, tech workers are worth $40-95k USD. It sucks, but that's what it is.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>they're just as much a part of the European pay and expense scheme as anybody else in the mainland is Maybe for the average pay, but for outliers on the high end, the ceiling is higher in London than what you can make in most other Mainland capitals. A German guy I know maxed out his TC locally then doubled it when moving to London as nobody in Germany would pay anywhere near that.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  What did the German guy do?
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    SW dev